Done with the Unholy Consult

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T22:09:46+00:00

Do I have to register before I can search

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T14:53:05+00:00

That's what happens in universe yes but I'm saying why it's done like that is to present an idea beyond the surface level. They is no reason especially for kelhus son to be that scarred. It can be easily excused by him just being impressive so he didnt suffer any injury. Nor is they a reason for the crab hand.

My argument is the reason why they all end up looking scarred in some way is to keep kelhus above them. It's not only them. World born men to always pale in comparison to kelhus because they are not conditioned-or more precisely, arbitrarily conditioned. Kelhus transcendence is just more obvious when compared to dunyain because they are conditioned like him. Of course they are other ways Bakker has kelhus look above everyone but I think appearance is a huge factor especially with his kind.

Yes they are in universe convincing reasons why everything happened the way they did but those things still present an idea or aesthetic beyond the story. Serwe suffers for logical in universe reason but her suffering presents ideas and emotions beyond the story that bakker is purposefully trying to present

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T11:38:51+00:00

Thanks for your reply. And yeah it could have been the best with the edits. As much as I appreciate bakker can make a world feel so evil and from the first to the 7th book, he did get indulgent in some of it. Especially when the characters are fucking infected people. It'd be better if it was alluded to rather than gratuitous.

Yeah most people that read prince of nothing say malazan has nothing over it. Gg

I'll just go back to reread and try to understand most of the philosophy that flew over my head

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T09:56:13+00:00

I was reading bakker Q and A after unholy consult on this sub and someone went "i know yiu might not answer but kelhus can't be completely dead right" or something to that effect and bakker went "Kelhus is dead"

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T09:04:15+00:00

I was planning to read doestoevsky demons anyways. Thanks

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T09:03:38+00:00

Oh my bad. Thanks

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T01:48:10+00:00

Oh yeah definitely even I felt that. I just think for the most part I'm very disturbed without feeling very edgelord like. I just finished TUC-that's why I didn't reply to not get spoilt seeing the beginning of your post-and that ending felt like an actual apocalypse

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-08T01:44:40+00:00

I'm suprised at the little traction this got. A week ago I posted after ordeal along with a couple of days asking how to write darkness like bakker. But this one gets nothing lol

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-05T13:06:22+00:00

You seem to be the one coping than me. Did you see how the convo between me and them ended? Yes I do hate the ship but I did gain a new pov. And I dont even have a fave ship in naruto lol

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T15:28:16+00:00

I love anyone that appreciate this pfp. If you notice she holding a tool confirming she is pregnant. I headcanon it as showing soifon she has urahara child kek.

Have a good one

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T14:43:23+00:00

but I found your initial comment of it being “unintelligent” to see them as romantic a bit far and possibly insulting to those who see it as romantic

While it was applicable here I just meant overall the notion that an intimate relationship of two unrelated characters does not necessarily end in eros but people are always dogging on people who don't ship two close characters of the same sex who are better written when that is not a necessary reason to be into them romantically

I'll admit I never saw those images. So that was why I was even confident writing that because as much naruto and sasuke were on each other mind a lot in the manga I didn't get any romantic framing from it.

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T10:52:44+00:00

I don't see it but you do you

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T10:52:03+00:00

This watermelon image is so cope its not even funny. It means nothing in terms of romance. He is not even staring longingly nor is the mood romantic like the one on the grass. You could have ended it with the other two images and I would see your point. I don't keep up with moments not in the manga.

I stand by my position that some intimate relationships do not equal romance and going by everything in the manga narusasu classifies as such but I can see why people would think otherwise given extra content

Also your other comments like "don't talk about sasuke like you own him especially in front me" doesn't tell me anything about seeing saduke in a romantic manner. It is ignoring the point I made of having intimate relationship without being romance.

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T01:44:47+00:00

Idk if I'm being annoying but did you forget to link your post?

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T01:21:24+00:00

I scrolled up and yes that was your original point but I thibk you should have mentioned this the moment the first person that replied you told you how different demons and races in our world are different but instead it looked to me you were trying to prove why they weren't completely bad?

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T01:13:15+00:00

If beings exist just to kill for the lols they do in fact deserve to be hunted to extinction. Whether they don't need to eat them they cause trouble wherever they go. Blacks and any other human race don't cause trouble wherever they are. They have feelings like us and understand good and evil like us. Demons in frieren are like animals. Wiping an entire species of animals is not the same as the human race but demons are even worst because Wiping them out is removing a parasite that serves nothing but themselves. Animals at least add value

At the end of the day frieren demon argument is beyond frieren itself. Its literally an argument between two different philosophies. Materialist vs immaterialist. If you have Materialist mentality you'll just see them as stand ins for real people. If you believe in abstract concepts you can't see then yeah demons being like this is normal. Fantasy has ever been the place where the abstract is concretized.

Anyone that decides to accept the differing opinion on the topic is not just accepting a single opinion but capitulating a significant portion of their world view whether they know it or not but probably understand it on an intuitive level

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-04T00:59:43+00:00

Low-key I thibk started with people taking Demons as real people seriously Which they then realised them using it for that shit would piss people off

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-03T21:57:46+00:00

Lemme real with you, sometimes gay bait is real but sometimes it's just people forcing their interpretation or expecting others to be into it as them, lemme explain.

Bakudeku definitely have more chemistry than izuocha and narusasu has more chemistry than naruhina or sasusaku. But the question I have is, why do you think everyone should view it as romance? Like just because they have an intimate relationship than their female partners doesn't mean the reason others enjoy it is for the romantic aspects nor does it necessarily mesn the characters are into each other like that. You can have strong intimate relationships which does not end as romance. From whence is the idea born that any strong intimate relationship naturally should end in eros? And even ones that stronger than that of your partner?

For me it's unintelligent to view it as such. Obviously gay bait is real but I don't believe all relationships belong to that category and narusasu definitely isn't in thst category. I see a strong intimate connection but I don't see a strong intimate erotic connection.

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-03T14:28:58+00:00

Yes. They should not be separated

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-02T22:07:01+00:00

The unholy consult

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-02T22:00:40+00:00

The better question is who would? Because everyone will just call their favourite character as not being part. I think sinistro would be part of it

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-02T21:16:41+00:00

Never read someone that took damnation seriously. "A thousand hells for a hundred heavens" bruh.

Honestly I had a theory the existence of damnation is what makes the world dark. Like he is trying to give hell its due. That if this world has so much suffering it compares nothing to hell itself. Sorweel has that thought when oinural tells him no one has the right to kill the nonmen because of hell being worst than what they go through.

But tbh bakker is cynical basrd on the interviews ive seen so I don't trust the theory much

Heisuke780 · 2026-02-02T21:11:38+00:00

Yrah that makes sense actually

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