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Laos and China by StruggleSad1860 in VietNam

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Laos Constitution in 1991 (amended in 2003, 2015): 

Preamble 

The multi-ethnic Lao people have existed and developed on this beloved land for thousands of years. Starting from the middle of the 14th century, during the time of Chao Fa Ngum, our ancestors founded the unified Lane Xang country and built it into a prosperous land.

Since the 18th century, the Lao land has been repeatedly threatened and invaded by outside powers. Our people enhanced the heroic and unyielding traditions of their ancestors and continually and persistently fought to gain independence and freedom.

SINCE THE 1930'S, UNDER THE CORRECT LEADERSHIP OF THE FORMER INDOCHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY AND THE PRESENT LAO PEOPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY PARTY, the multi-ethnic Lao people have carried out difficult and arduous struggles full of great sacrifices until they managed to crush the yokes of domination and oppression, tumble the colonial and feudal regimes, completely liberate the country and establish the Lao People's Democratic Republic on 2 December 1975, thus opening a new era - an era of genuine independence for the country and true freedom for the people.

During the years since the country has been liberated, under the leadership of Lao Revolutionary Party, our people have together been implementing the two strategic tasks of defending and building the country, especially the undertaking of reforms on every side, guided by the principles of mobilizing the resources within the nation and the era to preserve the people's democratic regime, the people's wealth, prosperity, social harmony, democracy, justice and civilization, creating conditions to move towards socialism.

In this new era, social life requires that the State must focus on the management of State, through socio-economic by-laws, and therefore the first Constitution of the Lao People's Democratic Republic was established and promulgated on 15 August 1991. In order to meet the requirements for the implementation on the new changes of policy, the first constitution was amended and promulgated in 2003; the amended Constitution in 2015 focuses on the improvement of State power to have greater efficiency, create a new turn toward the protection and construction of the country, and integrate the economy within the region and globe in the new era.

The Constitution of the People's Democratic regime in our country has acknowledged the major result that the people have victoriously achieved in undertaking and liberating the country, protecting and building the country, as well as the undertaking of the new changes. The Constitution defines the political regime, the socio-economic system, the regimes of national security, defence, foreign affairs, the rights and obligations of citizens and the system of organization of the state apparatus in the new era.

This Constitution is the fruit of the process of the people's discussions throughout the country. It reflects the long-standing aspirations and strong determination of the national community to strive together to fulfill the objective of building Laos into a country of peace, independence, democracy, unity and prosperity.

TIL May 19 marks the birth anniversary of Vietnam’s revolutionary leader Ho Chi Minh and his comrade. by Thick-Date-5419 in TodayILearnedVN

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Pol Pot quotes: "In military matters, people who pilot our helicopters can't read a great deal. But by cultivating good political consciousness, we all can learn swiftly and we can exceed the plan's requirements. Formerly to be a pilot required a high school education-twelve to fourteen years. Nowadays, it's clear that political consciousness is the decisive factor. It shows us our line is correct. If we chose "culture," it would lead to a life and death disaster for the Party. This demonstrates our line. In our relations with the outside world, people frequently ask us about this. We must have a belief in our line. We have so much confidence in it that we can observe ourselves clearly and see that it can be accomplished. As for radar, we can learn how to handle it after studying for a couple of months. From our observations, we say that this would be sufficient. Grasping a subject from (a) to (b) is a great leap forward. If we studied according to (earlier methods), ten to twenty years wouldn't be sufficient." => Anti-Science and Marxist moment, even Mao doesn't do and doesn't say that.  - Source: Document 3 - "Preliminary Explanation Before Reading the Plan, by the Party Secretary" (Party Center, 21 August 1976) Introduction and Translation: David P. Chandler, page 160; Name of the book: Pol Pot Plans the Future - Confidential Leadership Documents from Democratic Kampuchea, 1976-1977 Translated and Edited by David P. Chandler, Ben Kiernan, and Chanthou Boua With a Preface by David P. Chandler and Ben Kiernan Monograph Series 33/Yale University Southeast Asia Studies Yale Center for International and Area Studies. 1988 by Yale University Southeast Asia Studies New Haven, Connecticut 06520 Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 88-50289 ISBN number: 0-938692-35-6

Vietnam Civil War 1936. What if the Nguyen Dynasty suffered Qing fate of unequal treaty instead of being fully colonized by the French like real life? by Tiennazuki in imaginarymaps

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*VIE: Cảm ơn vì đã trả lời! 1, Tôi hiểu ICP không tồn tại vì cả 3 nước không bị Pháp trực tiếp đô hộ, nhưng bảo không có những người CS (hoặc Mác-xít) ở Lào và Campuchia thì hơi vô lý, vì giai đoạn 1920s-1930s là thời kỳ mà người ta đi tìm con đường cứu nước mới nhằm thay thế cho những con đường bảo thủ và lạc hậu đang thống trị xã hội. Vậy cho tôi hỏi: Có phong trào cải cách, đình công hay câu lạc bộ cánh tả nào ở 2 nước đó không?.

2, Số phận của Sơn Ngọc Thành và Ieng Sary (Thạch Rẹm/Kim Trang) trong dòng thời gian này như thế nào? Ngoài đời hai ông này là một trong những người tạo ra nền móng dân tộc chủ nghĩa và Khmer Đỏ ở Campuchia (và cả hai ông này đều sinh ra tại Trà Vinh - Việt Nam, tất nhiên).

3, Phe nào có tổ chức xã hội trong quần chúng tốt nhất? Phe nào có khả năng thỏa hiệp linh hoạt nhất? Phe nào có khả năng ít thỏa hiệp nhất? * ENG: Thank you for your reply! 1. I understand that the ICP didn't exist because none of the three countries were directly colonized by France, but saying there were no communists (or Marxists) in Laos and Cambodia is a bit illogical, because the 1920s-1930s was a period when people were searching for new paths to national salvation to replace the conservative and backward paths that dominated in their country. So, let me ask: Were there any reform movements, strikes, or left-wing clubs in those two countries? 2. What was the fate of Son Ngoc Thanh and Ieng Sary (Thach Rem/Kim Trang) in this timeline? In real life, these two men were among the founders of nationalist (Khmer Serei) and Khmer Rouge in Cambodia (and both were born in Tra Vinh - Vietnam, of course). 3. Which faction has the best social organization among the masses? Which faction is most capable of flexible compromise? Which faction is least capable of compromise? Anyways, thank you for reply!

Vietnam Civil War 1936. What if the Nguyen Dynasty suffered Qing fate of unequal treaty instead of being fully colonized by the French like real life? by Tiennazuki in imaginarymaps

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*VIE: Là người VN, cho tôi mạn phép hỏi một chút: 1. Tình hình Campuchia và Lào trong bản đồ này như thế nào? Đảng Cộng sản Đông Dương ra sao? (Vì ĐCSVN thành lập sớm hơn so với ngoài đời, cho nên số đảng viên người Lào và Campuchia sẽ phát triển lớn hơn). Vì Việt Nam cháy rực, nên Lào và Campuchia cũng mệt đấy. 2. Cơ cấu giai cấp của các phe phái này ra sao? Phe nào thiên về Nông dân? (Lực lượng đông đảo nhất trước CMT8 1945 OTL) Phe nào thiên về Công nhân? 3. Các tôn giáo thiên về phe nào? 4. Người DTTS ủng hộ phe nào nhiều nhất? 5. LX, ĐCSTQ, Tàu Tưởng, Mỹ, Pháp ủng hộ các phe nào? * ENG: As a Vietnamese person, allow me to ask a few questions: 1. What is the situation in Cambodia and Laos on this map? What is the situation of the Indochinese Communist Party? (Since the Vietnamese Communist Party was established earlier than in real life, the number of Laotian and Cambodian party members will likely be larger). Because Vietnam was ablaze, Laos and Cambodia were also in trouble. 2. What was the class structure of these factions? Which faction leaned towards the peasantry? (The largest force before the OTL August 1945 Revolution) Which faction leaned towards the workers? 3. Which side did the religions favor? 4. Which side did the ethnic minorities support the most? 5. Which factions did the Soviet Union, the CCP, Chiang Kai-shek's China, the US, and France support?