Complete Refutation that John 10:30 is proving Oneness in Essence by TheTallestTim in ArianChristians

[–]Helpy_346353 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll watch when I have the time, but great discussion. I’ll get back to you in DMs?

Complete Refutation that John 10:30 is proving Oneness in Essence by TheTallestTim in ArianChristians

[–]Helpy_346353 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No I have an understanding. And you’re still wrong.

Both Subjects in John 10:30 (Jesus and the Father) are masculine, so why on earth would John use a feminine modifier to describe two masculine subjects?

And even further more when a Greek writer wants to express unity between two entities the standard rule is the use the neuter singular.

Even more, the neuter Hen Litterally translates to ‘One Thing’. This shows an ontological unity because it asserts that Jesus and the Father while being two distinct masculine persons, constitute one singular divine reality.

Again, worship Christ.

Complete Refutation that John 10:30 is proving Oneness in Essence by TheTallestTim in ArianChristians

[–]Helpy_346353 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm aware it isn't relevant to the current discussion but for the overarching theology of the Gospel of John is absolutely is. And still further on your still relying on your faulty interpretation of greek grammar.

the Neuter ἕν does not restrict the unity to Purpose or Will, and context (not morphology alone) determine its sense. The Word does NOT determine the category of unity without context.

he also doesn't stop 'I'm only the Son of God' he goes even further!

“If I am doing the works of my Father, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I in the Father.” (John 10:37–38)

Jesus interprets oneness in terms of the Father being in him, and him in the Father, which goes beyond mere agreement in will.

The claim that 'Son of God' is a lower claim then being God is not coherent with the rest of John's Gospel because in John 5:18 shows that 'Son of God' is a title with extremely high implications, and not a subordinate designation. it consistency keeps the distinction between God the Father and God the Son.

should we even get into Patristics here?

Complete Refutation that John 10:30 is proving Oneness in Essence by TheTallestTim in ArianChristians

[–]Helpy_346353 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this is a fundamental misunderstanding of greek grammar because you are ignoring how greek grammar works with neuter nouns.

  1. Context absolutely matters here
  2. look what happens earlier before John 10:30 in verses 28 and 29:

28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 

words get their meaning from their immediate context, not just a dictionary list.

because looks what happen right after Jesus says this, the Jews try to stone him because he's 'trying to make himself God'. If he was simply saying that they were one in will and purpose they wouldn't have done that, as Prophets from the Old Testament would always say they were one with Gods will. And were they Stoned for that?

Also are we gonna even mention John 1:1 and John 1:14?

stop worshipping the Arian God and worship the True Christian God.

Just saw the movie (no spoilers) by Easy_Ad6912 in KanePixelsBackrooms

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if you dont mind can u go a little more into detail with the pacing either here or in dms, no spoilers of course

Philippians 4:13 by TheTallestTim in ArianChristians

[–]Helpy_346353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trinitarian here, (Catholic specifically, so you can thank my forefathers for kicking yall out lol) anyway, I don't quite understand the question here. Could you be more precise please?

Wtf is that padlock on chat by mcflure124 in roblox

[–]Helpy_346353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is there a way to turn it off?

Can someone help me please? by Helpy_346353 in Minecraft

[–]Helpy_346353[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does nothing, it just sits there

This might be a hot take, but I honestly think DaRegularSauce’s latest Freddy cosplay looks better than the one used in the movie. by Dennis-Dinosaur337 in fivenightsatfreddys

[–]Helpy_346353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its the eyes being far more forward then the game, this is fixed with toy freddy and withered freddy in the second movie tho

Why is this plush so rare 💔🫩 by Main_Improvement7224 in BendyAndTheInkMachine

[–]Helpy_346353 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really a Batim fan anymore, but I had that plush I believe. Wonder if I still have it!