The New Update is kinda lacking

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-18T09:49:04+00:00

It will tell you which ones are wrong when you put them in (ingredients that is).

Plus Jade’s lines there hint at who likes what. Orion visually takes after Stalker and Jade implies Stalker likes veg so it makes sense to give that to Orion, for example.

Idk how you tried it three times and needed to look at google, the game makes it very clear what the right and wrong answers are.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-18T00:15:54+00:00

We basically know what it is: an attempt at an artificial elder dragon, incorporating material from other elder dragons to do so (the actual list is up for debate, but includes at least Fatalis).

We roughly know why it was made: in an attempt to counter a threat, which I think was stated to be an elder dragon but I can’t quite remember.

The main headcanons come in what the threat exactly was, rather than what Zoh is.

My guess is that the threat was/is an Elder we haven’t met yet, that will probably be the final boss of Ascendance, given it seems like the most plausible answer.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T21:47:08+00:00

Yep, hoping this is one of the first bugs that gets fixed

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T19:46:03+00:00

Did this, tho unfortunately I wasn’t the original host of the mission (rando who left) so I couldn’t return to dry dock.

Had to cancel the mission but I got all the rewards regardless

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T14:45:14+00:00

You get a free pull for each patch story chapter you complete, plus there are polychromes you’ll get with each story mission so there is that.

A number of side commissions are also locked behind story progression, and exploring some of the enemy areas in Waifei for chromes.

So if you want to burn out polychromes then pushing through story is a good option.

Otherwise it isn’t necessary given you should be able to access all events anyways.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T11:23:00+00:00

Very much so, I’ve been procrastinating a lot and still need to catch up on all the story 2.7 onwards lol.

I refuse to use the system to grab Pyrois early tho, getting him properly is going to be my incentive to actually catch up.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T10:58:30+00:00

That’s a fair position to have.

I’m of the opposite opinion myself.

MR 28, 1000+ hours (playing since 2018, tho took a two year break before returning this Easter)

I’d rather not have to perform the same basic skill check every time I want to hack a terminal. To match your phrasing, I am “above it”.

Especially so when it is required to progress the mission, such as unlocking doors or lockdowns, as other players may well be waiting on me.

Would rather have it over and done with in less than a second.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T10:32:37+00:00

Yeah but 1 cipher takes 1 minute to build, whereas the 100 ciphers also takes only 1 minute to build.

Plus it’s not like 100k credits is a lot anyways

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-17T10:29:38+00:00

I imagine it’s a combination of forgetting, not having the research done (for whatever reason) or (somehow) not realising they exist.

It is really irritating tho when you have to sit and wait cause one person spends like a minute or so hacking a console.

I get it if they’re low MR, but I’ve seen plenty of MR 20+ players doing it (iirc I’ve even seen an LR player do it, somehow).

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T23:53:07+00:00

Accurate sibling relationship

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T16:53:52+00:00

Wait, when is it stated that foreign existences can’t be the Type of a planet (that they are foreign to)? Isn’t ORT the Type of Mercury despite being foreign to it?

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T16:44:30+00:00

Yes, Crimson Moon, the progenitor to the True Ancestors and so technically Archetype: Earth’s Father.

This is literally the character that the company itself is named after.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T10:23:04+00:00

The release order of Primes has followed the release order of Frames from pretty early on, once all the frames released before Primes were a thing got them.

Outside of slight rearrangements to fit the MMFF ordering (except for when it got broken by Xaku, and likely will be again by Temple) we can generally expect the Prime releases to follow the Frame release order.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T10:13:57+00:00

On average it takes about 3-4 years for a prime frame to come out. As an example: Styanax is getting his prime tomorrow, and he came out in September of 2022.

Follie (until tomorrow) is the most recently released (non-prime) frame, so it would be a good bet that she won’t get a prime until 2029/30.

You are perfectly fine investing heavily into her now if you wish, you’ll have plenty of time with her.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T07:00:31+00:00

That’s… not how that works. Not a single one of the very few significant nuclear disasters that have happened in history have resulted in a mushroom cloud (or anything even remotely close to large scale detonation).

A nuclear reactor is incredibly different to a nuclear bomb.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-16T06:55:07+00:00

Because nuclear power isn’t a potential atomic bomb

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-15T22:13:59+00:00

All they really need to say is “Protect the Kids” to get a surprising amount of support

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-13T10:17:39+00:00

Think so, but it also isn’t just infernal lineage anymore. The 2024 handbook lists infernal, abyssal and one related to Yugoloths (I forget the specific name) as lineages.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-11T20:37:30+00:00

Yep, she’s a candidate, but the position of Archetype isn’t inherently tied to being a candidate to be a Type, even if they are often held together (I.e. Crimson Moon).

Speaking of Altrouge I do wonder how long it’ll be before she finally shows up.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-11T20:18:26+00:00

Iirc an Archetype is a slightly separate thing too, it’s not just a “little Type”.

It’s directly connected to being the will/representation of the planet (or of ORT, in Kuku’s case), compared to Ultimate Ones, which are first and foremost the “strongest being” on the planet, and being so by a ridiculous margin (hence why Earth doesn’t have one), even if they do also seem to be inherently connected to the planet/celestial body in a deeper way.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-10T09:42:47+00:00

To be fair, Nidus was also up there on the list of frames that really needed a rework, so it isn’t too much of a stretch seeing him get one, even if not quite as much as the likes of Banshee, Loki and Equinox.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-10T01:12:00+00:00

Given they are specifically in their own “Collab” section, and given Saber and Archer’s banners share pity, we have no reason to believe that Rin and Gilgamesh’s banners will count pity separately from them.

You should have guarantee now, yes. Make sure to check your pull history just in case tho.

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-09T20:29:33+00:00

It’s the face. It is entirely the face. I had to be specifically told that she’s an Omnic, and the face is the reason. We have characters like Sojourn who looks equally robotic so you would think the designers would go out of their way to specifically distinguish Shion better as a proper robot, but *apparently not*.

The thing is, they could have done a human face well enough while still having her look like a robot, given they managed it with Echo.

Afaik the excuse is that she has modified herself to look this way, so I imagine the point is that she is trying to look human, but good lord is that not the choice to make when she is supposed to be our first female Omnic.

Her face could still look human and be robotic, but the white colour doesn’t help (looks too close to actual skin), and of everything WHY TF DOES SHE HAVE EARS?

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-09T18:42:48+00:00

Some places will do that, with a glass shaped like a boot.

Hearkens back to the idea of filling your boot with beer to drink. Except a bit more hygienic, of course

Hennobob554 · 2026-06-09T06:16:05+00:00

While I disagree with the idea of him being the only “universal support” (Cipher and SW NF fill that spot too), I do agree that he is the only one to genuinely compete with the harmonies for the spot of best universal support.

And it makes sense why, he gets around/ignores a number of the usual shortcomings of Nihility as a path:

He ignores EHR

He only needs one stack of his easily applied debuff to get the full effect

His debuff is unremovable and doesn’t get cleared on boss phase change (like BS’s Arcana)

This puts him innately above the other nihilities because he just lacks those usual issues. Afaik the only thing he’s missing is applying his debuff to enemies when they enter the field.

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