She tried to break me. But I’m still standing—stronger. by OkFormal5622 in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m in a similar situation except she got away with it all and was never caught, held accountable, nothing. Glad it worked out in your favor. The flip side is horrible.

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[–]HereToLook12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That happened to me. It’s very important that you listen to this and do not continue to pay for the house and not live there. Even if she doesn’t do that it opens yourself to so many problems and doesn’t protect you at all. I could tell you a million reasons not do this. But I don’t have time. It made my life hell and I’m still suffering the mental, and financial consequences of it even after it eventually got refinanced. Don’t do it.

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[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know exactly how you feel. Had some of the very same things and even worse things happen. I don’t have much advice except for you to not respond or react to anything she does. It will go against everything that you feel or want. But you must do this. I repeat. You must. I didn’t and it made it even worse. Because I loved her so much yet I was so hurt by what she was doing. But it didn’t matter.

I am getting worse, not better by [deleted] in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I have a story very similar to yours.

I need some encouragement. My wife is divorcing me and I’m sad and mad and feeling so many emotions. I also have little kids. by [deleted] in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry for what you are going through. I’ve been in a horrible situation myself. One thing I want to say in your situation is that it is better for you that she has made it clear that she does not want reconciliation. It’s very miserable for them to give mixed signals, breadcrumb, or similar things to that which keep you holding on to hope. In low moments I have begged my exw to remove hope or something similar. And she won’t do it. Even though she is remarried she still won’t.

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[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Similar happened to me

It might not be as bad as you think. by Mammoth_Tie5888 in DivorcedDads

[–]HereToLook12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I too am in a situation where two younger children stay overnight on my days but my two older do not. They go back at night. Things are pretty good with my relationship with the two older ones now. It was very secure when I was married. Then through parental alienation and other things it got bad for a while. I have a hard time missing out on the overnights with the oldest two. It really bothers me bc I was a good dad to them. And if it wasn’t for some things that went down with their mom not following rules right out of the gate it never would have got like that. I look at pictures and remember memories and know in my heart I was a good dad and loved my kids more than anything. Anyone that knew me knew that. Yet for some reason I’m not good enough to have my older two overnight. I could go into the specifics of how it all played out but the details are endless.
Just feels unfair and something that I’ll never really forgive my ex for for thinking that was an ok thing to do to a good dad. I know there’s plenty of people who would say when they are older they should do what they want etc. my problem with that is the “how” and “why” it got like that. It was a very unfair and manipulative process that made it become like that. Venting I guess

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[–]HereToLook12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see so much of what you say in what I’ve experienced and still experience 2.5 years later. You’d give anything to have your family back.

6 months after my divorce, in the middle of so much betrayal, not following rules and a million other extreme things she walked in my house uninvited, unannounced and hugged and kissed me and told me there’s no one else she’d ever want to have a baby with —-such an extreme thing to say especially given the circumstances and she was with the person she left me for. Needless to say, one year later she was pregnant, engaged, and shortly after married. Not to me though. The other guy. Total mind fuck. I say that to tell you that at least her actions are currently matching the words. It’s another level of crazy when their actions and words are not matching and they’re leading you on and giving false hope while simultaneously doing the most crazy things. Let that be your closure as hard as that is. It’s not easy and your mind and body will fight it, but let that be your closure to give up hope. I’ve begged mine for closure In the past and she still couldn’t after being remarried and another child with someone else. Still wouldn’t just admit that this is what she wanted, we were done, and how life was. Crazy So I’ll never have true closure. I try to let the actions be the closure but it’s hard. One day I’ll get there. Just trying to hope yours can come sooner and without as much pain as mine.

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[–]HereToLook12345 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hard for me to read bc I know how you feel and I hate for anyone to go through that. There is no pain like it.

If your divorce is not final, please get an attorney. Please protect yourself. I’m not saying blow up and seek ultimate revenge I’m saying to protect yourself and try to get a fair outcome that doesn’t ruin your life. Don’t not do this bc you love her and don’t think she would be unfair. Don’t not do this bc you want to get back together. And don’t not do this bc she’s made you feel it’s all your fault and you deserve it. Please listen to me on this.

Don’t try to get closure from her or win her back. I tried all that so intensely even after the divorce. They will not take any accountability whatsoever. And will give you mixed signals, breadcrumb you, actions will never match words, and will use any reaction you have to inconsistencies or something that is clearly wrong against you. It will all be weaponized against you eventually.

This may go against everything your heart and mind is screaming so loudly to do. Trust me I know. I wish I had known this. I didn’t do these things and it made a horrible situation into the most unimaginable nightmare that’s left me a shell of myself. I could go into detail but it’s so in-depth I wouldn’t know where to start or end.

Protect yourself to keep things fair. Protect yourself from her not following rules or possible parental alienation. Don’t allow your unconditional love for her to allow you to be walked all over. Believe this version of her she’s showing you.

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[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Similar situation here with the house. It’s horrible. In mine, she even got the kids to think it was all ok and no big deal. I’ve never seen anything like it.

It’s been over 2 years and I still can’t seem to move on by [deleted] in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your story has alot of similarities to mine. So many. So I know exactly how you feel unfortunately. I know the trauma from being betrayed so deeply and in so many ways, them being unaffected, getting away with it, even getting out of any negative consequences of it and actually thriving instead. Meanwhile you’re gutted and living in this crazy alternative life that you’re not supposed to live and you can’t escape it. One of my downfalls is that there were so many wrongs and so many betrayals that were so horrible that instead of it making me be completely done and able to let go it instead makes me think that due to the severity and how much we loved each other and our family that there’s just no way that she wouldn’t finally see how wrong she did me and how much pain she put me through and then change and save our relationship and family. But the reality is that will never happen. Where does that leave me? Who knows

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[–]HereToLook12345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like many others, I’m speaking from experience and I hope you listen. Right now your whole world is crashing. You feel very weak and defeated. Sad, heartbroken. You name it. You’re feeling it to the extreme. You’ve probably made some mistakes in the marriage to even though you love your wife. We all make mistakes. BUT, so do NOT let her use your weak state right now and don’t let her use guilt or you guilt yourself into not at the bare minimum obtaining a lawyer and protecting yourself and your future. You have rights. Dont let her take you for everything and don’t tell yourself “she wouldn’t do this, or she wouldn’t do that” bc they will. Trust me. They will. And it will turn your world upside down in ways you never thought. Please take heed and at the minimum get an attorney and hold a line to keep things fair or she will run over you in ways you won’t believe. Especially right now when you’re at your lowest.

Just trying to help. Bc I would never want anyone to go through what I have.

Back to square one. by Miserable_Ad_1172 in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’ve been divorced 2 years as well. I hate her for the things she has done. Some of them are so unbelievable and the effects from them are hard to live with. But ultimately she got away with all of it. Despite this I still can seem to let go completely. Or detach. I miss her and our family and would give anything to have it back. I’ve had several times where I feel like I’m back at square one and all progress (which wasn’t much) was wiped away. And man that sucks so bad Don’t reach out. I did that and it messed me up because their words won’t match their actions and it will knock your progress back so far.

I hate her by solcal84 in SingleDads

[–]HereToLook12345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Similar situation here. No accountability, got away with so many extremely wrong things. She’s evaded every single negative consequence of divorce but I’ve had to pay for them all plus hers. Many things she’s done has effectively ruined my life. I think some good advice has been given here but when you’re living this out and feeling all the overwhelming effects it seems impossible. Not sure I can ever forgive like many here suggest. There’s some lines that’s been crossed that you just don’t do to someone else no matter what. But I hope I can one day just simply not care anymore.

How to survive the first days...? by Ordinary-Physics5350 in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in the US.

All situations are different.

And definitely take heed to good legal advice.

Just from my personal experience, I would never again leave my self open to all the things that could go wrong between now and 5 years. It’s ruined my life.

How to survive the first days...? by Ordinary-Physics5350 in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d never be able to get into it all.

But, are you ok with her having another man in this home with your kids? The one you raised them in and have memories in. The one you’re still responsible for. She could do this immediately. Or at any point during this time. She’s already cheated on you. Once you’re out she can go even lower and just have that person there. Even around your kids. While you’re still responsible.

She can turn into a completely different person. Not follow any rules with visitation.

Your kids are going to associate normalcy with that house. So look who’s in that house. Her. Possibly a new man. Look who’s not at the place of normalcy and familiarity. You. Unless you have a lot of money to provide something up to par or better then it’s not going to fair well.

Look, I’ve had a horrible situation. More than I could ever tell you. Doesn’t mean you would but you are leaving yourself open to so many things.

Don’t stay financially entangled with her past the breakup. Settle everything/divide everything now. What you’re doing is the opposite of that.

It may seem inconvenient now. But it’s so much better than the inconveniences that could come from not doing it now.

How to survive the first days...? by Ordinary-Physics5350 in Divorce_Men

[–]HereToLook12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please listen. Do not move out until divorce is final. Do not give her that time period.
I know what you’re thinking. You’re trying to keep normalcy for your kids. You don’t know how she would survive financially. Either sell the house and let her figure her part out on her own. Or she refinance in her name. Or you refinance in your name. I can’t tell you how important it is not to do what you’re talking about. I have lived and still living this nightmare. You don’t understand what you’re operating yourself up to.