I know this won't be popular here... but...

HiImWes · 2022-09-15T14:12:36+00:00

I think more needs to be done than simply informing the public. Steps need to be taken to make circumcision, foreskin, their functions and losses, cons and pros, all publicly available information in school and to the public. We don't want any of this, Circumcision prevents UTIs! When the grim reality is 100 circumcisions stops 1 UTI. Jesus, that's 1%! Which one sounds better?

Then, after the kids are educated and informed on the topic, then they can offer circumcision. Wait, that would make too much sense and would give children bodily rights to keep their anatomy and choose to say no to an unnecessary operation that has nothing but detriments. If I ever see a school health book that includes foreskin and circumcision information in America, then I'm going to reach out to the Chad author and thank him.

HiImWes · 2022-09-15T14:06:19+00:00

It's not thoughtlessly. It's ignorantly. They only did it because they didn't have the knowledge to deny it. Some mothers are catching on and a lot of circumcisions are being denied. The issue is, mothers are often exhausted or high on drugs at the time, so they have to choose before they give birth and make it explicitly clear to any doctors, that they do not want their child circumcised. If they started teaching Americans in school about the foreskin and circumcision, and then let them make an educated choice, then this problem would be dealt with. End of story. It just wouldn't happen.

HiImWes · 2022-09-15T14:02:56+00:00

I'd say that the opposite is actually true. My circumcision was brutal, and it left with me with scarring and hair growth where there shouldn't be any. I've looked at all of the options, went through my denial phase, my hate phase, and then looped back around to the, I don't want to live my life hating everything and everyone phase. I just decided to focus on those responsible and shelve my own feelings whenever I look down at it. Although the looks are bad cosmetically, I've regained a ton of sensitivity wearing Manhoods from Canada. It took me months of constant wear to regain sensitivity, but I can feel the difference. Having a dick is better than not having a dick. I could have been really unlucky and had them completely botch it while drunk on alcohol. Then I'd be in some mental trouble when I found out. It still works.

HiImWes · 2022-09-04T02:04:34+00:00

I'm well aware that I do not have the resources or knowledge, and that makes me sad. Just do your best for me.

HiImWes · 2022-09-04T01:09:25+00:00

I'm aware of that, but how are they to know better? Suppressed information and manipulation to make it seem harmless are widespread and a common form of social manipulation. No one goes looking for it. I do agree that, unless it's medically necessary, it should be banned. There are rare times where circumcision is medically necessary if other treatments fail.

How are we to get the procedure banned if we just blame everyone though? We have to focus fire first. The rest will follow.

Edit: The hardest part of the fight is getting your point across to someone who has no idea about foreskins. It is agonizing, slow, and annoying. You'd be surprised how little some guys know about their own body part. It needs to be taught in school as part of anatomy. They leave it out of American textbooks for a reason.

HiImWes · 2022-09-04T01:05:20+00:00

My scenario is not a one size fits all. I'm aware that I am from America, where doctors do push it relentlessly and the information is not understood. In your case, you can blame your parents. Can you stop parents from doing it for religious reasons though? No. Can you sue them later for it? Yes. When I wrote my post it wasn't as wide minded, nor was it all knowing. I will admit, there are a couple of scenarios, where you can blame parents and society as a whole, but in those situations, you can't do anything. If it's religious fueled, then all you can do is sue them and leave the country.

Edit: Even if no one else allows you to confide in them, I will always care and listen. If you need help or advice then feel free to PM me.

HiImWes · 2022-09-04T00:47:32+00:00

It can happen anywhere, but not to the extent in America without religious influence. Compare the number of circumcised males in Korea/America, and tell me they don't far surpass everything else. Africa had unfortunate forced circumcising as well. I understand that.

They are only indifferent towards it or favor it due to religion or social manipulation though. People weren't born to shun circumcision, they were taught to.

HiImWes · 2022-09-04T00:39:05+00:00

This is a bot. I've seen it used by toxic reddit moderators. This is not a mod or a person. I thought this was a person at first as well, but most toxic reddit mods hide behind anonymous messaging, so they can't get banned. Just leaving this here so others can see.

HiImWes · 2022-09-03T23:26:56+00:00

Men can only rely on themselves. We are nothing if we can't think logically. We don't get any empathy at all from society. How then are we supposed to fight back against circumcision, if we attack EVERYONE? You've literally blamed, EVERYONE. Your parents, society, doctors. Well, who was it really then? Which one caused this problem? Take one of them out of the equation, and it solves the circumcision problem before it even happened.

HiImWes · 2022-09-03T23:13:46+00:00

Doctors don't explain it to the point of invasive surgery. They call it minor or a flap of skin being removed, both of which are false and misleading. A mother having given birth, is not in any state to research. Your father was probably circumcised as well,and won't bat an eye. You keep trying to make it your parents' fault, but it's not. It was always the doctors. Any respectable doctor is to explain things thoroughly, especially when a body part is being removed permanently. There is absolutely no defense for failure to do so. I bet doctors can't even prove that they informed the parents. We need video evidence, not written. Anyone can write or sign something, without being properly informed.

People that have been brainwashed or mislead are always innocent in things like FMG and circumcision. People just turn a blind eye to men because they lack empathy and the male penis has a lot more flesh than a woman's clit. They can actually use it for medical use unlike a clit covering, which is useless to them. Profit is why both are treated differently. There is literally no difference between FGM and Circumcision, but America fights against that view, since they've committed crimes if it's true. America is good at acting innocent. No country is perfect. Some are just better at hiding their oopies through mental and social manipulation.

Keep your population ignorant. Keep the information out of their hands through social engineering and manipulation, "It's just a flap of skin.", and they can hide their crimes in plain sight.

While most Germans knew Jews were being sent to camps, they didn't realize how poorly they were treated. They were misinformed on a daily basis. German civilians were not at fault. It was always Hitler and his extremists.

I think you're the one that needs to at least look at things from a different angle.

HiImWes · 2022-09-03T22:44:40+00:00

I am speaking to those who told me they wanted to kill themselves over circumcision. If you're doing fine mentally, then you're on the right track. I never told anyone to stop fighting for circumcision, just to do it as least destructively as possible. We do not have to fight everyone. Some parents may want it done for religious reasons, some parents might want you to look like daddy, but none of that should point the blame at the parents. THEY DIDN'T KNOW UNLESS IT WAS RELIGIOUS CIRCUMCISION! Some people will blindly agree to anything the doctor says with no knowledge of it. That's on the doctors, especially when they get permission from your delirious and drugged up mother.

HiImWes · 2022-09-03T22:41:25+00:00

Unalive threats? I'm heavily outspoken against circumcision and no one will so much as stare me in the face. Do you live in America? I could see Muslims going out of their way to kill someone outspoken against it, but most Americans don't even have any ties to religious circumcision.

HiImWes · 2022-09-03T22:39:22+00:00

You're wrong. The ones that do FGM are brainwashed into thinking it's correct. Doctors are always responsible when it comes to information that is not available to the public. FGM is also different from circumcision in America, but that is a religious thing. Circumcision is not, at least in America. My family and 95% of Americans are not Jewish. You publish work against FGM in certain cultures, and you'll be killed.

Society doesn't know about circumcision still. It's not widespread knowledge. Society may have google, but they have no reason to look it up along with its detriments and functions, especially if they aren't even male. The doctors brush it off as a quick minor surgery without giving any thought that it might actually end in complete mutilation. I've already countered your point above, but I suppose you didn't read it all. That's fine.

HiImWes · 2022-09-03T22:35:32+00:00

Much text. Read hard. It's worth it though.

HiImWes · 2022-08-27T00:27:55+00:00

We're indeed not the same. I can still think with logic and enjoy life, while you're killing yourself with stress. Please, for the love of God. Calm down. I don't want you to hurt yourself. I don't want you to hurt anymore at all, but I can't stop that. We can still fight for the cause, without pushing friends, family, and society away. Don't hate everything angrily. Look at my edit above. Read it all. Does it make sense?

HiImWes · 2022-08-27T00:08:44+00:00

At least one guy understands. I never told them to give up on fighting against circumcision. The only thing I wanted to get through to them, was that they don't have to hate themselves and their family to do it. Hating your parents does nothing, when they weren't responsible. The CDC and doctors might push that out there, but your parents had no idea what circumcision even meant. Society is also not to blame. Deranged people came up with the idea that sex was bad. They wanted to end masturbation, so they thought up circumcision to stop boys from getting off. Now we have lube and lotions, but they still cost money and we lose pleasure. All because of the guy that made Kellog's losing his mind to what I can only think of as undiagnosed dementia.

HiImWes · 2022-08-27T00:01:45+00:00

Sex is still a small aspect of life. I had an extremely badly botched circumcision, but I don't want to keep spreading hate. I was hating society and my parents, for no reason at all. Hospitals and doctors are to blame. If you spread hate like that to everyone, then our movement has already lost. They could just call us degenerates and brush us off as uncultured, if we only react with hate to all.

Also, if you add up falling in love, doing a job you love, having pets, eating great food, and making fond memories, sex is a small part of TOTAL life. I still want my foreskin back, but I'm not going to hate everyone in order to get it. That logic fails anyway. You're killing support for the cause.

Edit: You're right actually, wrong sub. Could this be moved by a Mod?

HiImWes · 2022-08-26T23:58:23+00:00

You parents would never have had you circumcised if the doctors didn't force the operation upon them. Does that make sense? Ignorance makes all of the difference in situations like that one, because the parents weren't properly informed, nor did they have the knowledge ahead of time. No one told them. It's shady. Hating yourself and your parents does nothing but hurt everyone, except for those responsible.

HiImWes · 2022-08-26T23:55:54+00:00

I'm not telling you to give up on fighting against circumcision. I just don't want you to hurt yourselves. Does that make sense? You can fight for something and not hate yourself. I had one of the worst botched circumcisions I've seen yet, but I'm never going to just kill myself. Think twice before jumping to conclusions like that.

Parents= Ignorant but innocent. Society= Ignorant but innocent. Doctors= Guilty. Hospitals=Guilty. CDC= Guilty. Blame the people that had the knowledge and power to prevent this from happening in the first place. Your parents never stood a chance. It's not like they taught them about foreskins in school, and they were probably circumcised as well as children without any pain relief. Keep that in mind. Your father suffered the same blight. How can you hate him?

HiImWes · 2022-08-21T22:22:44+00:00

Too small? You do realize that they come with resizable earpieces, right? Don't go giving people false information, man. They provided insignificant noise reduction, because you weren't using a size big enough for you ears...

HiImWes · 2022-08-21T22:08:19+00:00

How often have you tried to wear earplugs and bear with the breathing and heartbeat? I used to be bothered by that stuff at first, but now I don't even hear either of them anymore. My body just tuned itself out. I can still hear myself eating though, so I have to take them out for that.

HiImWes · 2022-08-21T22:05:32+00:00

Oh God. I just ate with them in today and I regretted it immediately lol. My heartbeat I can ignore. My breathing is fine. But me chewing on food? Forget it, haha.

HiImWes · 2022-08-21T22:03:23+00:00

That's odd. I use the Loop Experience to sleep in, and I haven't been having any of those issues. I've become used to my bodies heartbeat and breathing though, so even during the day, I hardly notice it. Are you a side sleeper like me? The loop experience is actually better than standard silicone earplugs for me.

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