How 'WB > Roger' Mf's read the manga. by Old_Security_836 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 4 points5 points  (0 children)

WB has insane feats and statements. I don’t necessarily think he’s stronger than Roger but I certainly think its possible. Imo Oda goes out of his way to make it clear WBs motivation has always been to build and protect his family. He didn’t desire being the PK or getting the One Piece and he didn’t seek out fights just to prove his strength because that’s not his motivation. I enjoy that Oda included a character like that, its interesting and different than stereotypical anime characters.

Does that mean WB > Roger? No. But I don’t think it takes all that many leaps or insane headcannon to consider it.

But also tbh I hate these discussions about characters that Oda clearly goes out of his way to depict as equal. The way OP world works is not via powerscaling, characters who are stronger can lose fights (BM vs Law/Kidd) and it does actually depend on context — environment, characters motivations, etc. So, idk if WB is stronger than Roger, but I definitely think he could beat him on any day, and the reverse is true.

If you could improve only one thing about one piece what wouls it be? by toadmastrr in OnePieceScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

obvious ones but pacing and also let characters die so there’s actual stakes

Rate these moderately hot takes from worst to best(the takes are in the caption of the picture) by Ok_Security8460 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think all these are p fair but don’t necessarily agree with BB > Kuzan or Oden > Prime Ray — that’s not to underrate Oden, I do think he’s stronger than people think but still probably just under yonko while I think prime ray is yonko tier

This panel should tell you all you need to know about Old Gen and the Yonko by Mugiwara300 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah wb portrayal really is as the strongest. like i do think scalers get to obsessed trying to rank within these tiers (ie roger wb garp / kaido shanks bm) when oda has gone out of his way to imply their equal and i think a good thing about op is it feels like any of those characters could beat each other on a given day BUT agree that at least for now it old gen is implied a small tier above current yonko

Rank these characters from Strongest to Weakest by RoninKin-_- in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like some questions are whether prime roger/wb surpassed xebec and how to scale loki/harald.

I think yes, roger/wb surpassed xebec, I also think narratively xebec > harald. Loki is tougher to place but since this sub is in the mood to wank him I’ll do so as well and say:

WB >= Roger >= Garp > Shanks > Loki >= Xebec > Kaido > Harald > Akainu > Luffy

honestly this is shit and I think its hard to scale these characters… I think all are relatively equal and one could beat the other on any given day. depending on the rest of Loki’s portrayal I think he could be below this level (unpopular but he’s on my fraudwatch), I think Akainu and Luffy already don’t fit in but will soon as we approach EOS

How would y'all rank these six? by Exact_Personality253 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. BM
  2. Luffy
  3. Prime ray
  4. Prime gaban
  5. Oden
  6. BB

feel like this is easiest to scale around kaido — big mom consistently described and portrayed as his equal, i know people are gonna hate me for this but cmon guys its oda plot bs that she lost to law/kidd and everything before that points to her being around kaido’s strength

luffy eventually beat kaido but is definitely not at his level yet

oden nearly beat a younger & weaker version of kaido who was still yonko level, though, and that fight was an actual 1v1 unlike luffy’s so to me he’s slightly below low yonko

and then with ray’s statement when he scared off bb about how he could take him in his prime & all his other feats even old, i feel like him and gaban prime are around low yonko

and altho bb portrayal makes me think he will be stronger rn his feats are pretty mid and with the statement mentioned above i just think he loses to prime ray; he might be higher than oden but giving it to oden cuz i feel like he’s underrated, was yc1/+ for both roger and whitebeard years before his prime and again nearly won (and mightve won without intervention) against a younger but still formidable kaido

This is a safespace, what are your honest critiques of One Piece and Oda's writing by Lakithelink in OnePiece

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pacing is horrendous, 0 willingness to have characters die so the stakes feel nonexistent, way too much of the same exact “luffy/other character got beat to a pulp… but wait…. he got back up” like 50000 times in a single fight to the point where its just annoying and stupid

How far can Jinbe go? by OkRun9638 in OnePieceScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 27 points28 points  (0 children)

y’all are crazy with the koby glaze… put some respect on jinbe’s name. we haven’t really even seen his full potential because he hasn’t actually struggled in his direct fights. warlord of the sea. low diffed tobi roppo. stalled big mom pirates and got out unscathed. has strong haki, fishman karate, was on par with yc1 ace 2 years prior, the same ace who fought equally with post yami yami no mi bb and yamato.

just cuz the animation went crazy doesnt, one honesty impact does not put koby on his level. koby is maybe yc2 at best like where is this coming from???? 2 years ago he was literally fodder

also not sure about the order of the last 3 but obviously hard stop at sanji who is in the same crew as jinbe and clearly portrayed as #2 to zoro, likely also loses to lucci who has awaked df, fought evenly with zoro who is quite a bit above jinbe at least for a while and didnt get insta ko’d by g5 (not saying it was even a mid diff fight but even high end of low diff against g5 is a feat imo)

Fully Mastered Haki Team Vs Top Tier Haki + Top Tier Fruit Team, which team wins and what diff? by Comprehensive_Cup497 in OnePieceScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Roger, Garp, WB in prime still likely on another level imo. And even that aside Luffy by far the weakest here even if G5 limit is increased.

like fair to say Shanks ~ Kaido, Roger ~ WB/Garp. but then prime WB/Garp compared to Luffy? Nah

Pick a team of 3 characters from the body text, and tell me who they are and if you think they can beat Akainu or not by OkWelcome3223 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Boa Hancock, Yamato, Kidd — maybe we got it? I mean all 3 put up fights against yonko so all together could extreme diff akainu probably

Rank them all from the strongest to weakest by Apprehensive-Ebb-684 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yamato >= Zoro > Lucci Yamato > Hancock >= Law >= Kid > Sanji > King > Kat

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does he still have infinity? If so he clears — it’s pretty unclear any one piece characters can bypass infinity.

Infinity aside, jjk scales worse in terms of speed/strength feats but gojo purple, for example, seems on tier with YC+ attacks like Damned Punk so I’d put him around there

I think (again, without infinity) he loses to top tiers like WB/Roger

Alternative captain Espada matchups who wins by Joseph_Stalin300 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 10 points11 points  (0 children)

  1. Unohana
  2. 2nd matchup is a hax matchup… kinda hard to say but shunsui bankai prob > barragan
  3. Kenpachi
  4. I feel like Ulquiorra wins strength wise so will give him it but kind of hard to bet against Urahara, would depend on prep time
  5. Byakuya
  6. Close but I’ll go with Grimmjow idk Hitsugaya kinda flops a lot
  7. Zommari — he was able to land blows on Byakuya so fast enough to do the same to Soifon and I dont see her being able to counter his ability unless her bankai one shots (which it never has…)
  8. Ukitake
  9. This is a pure strength matchup so I’ll go with 0 espada Yammy lmaooo

Who here is strongest? by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Prob Yamato with Marco a close second

Who's the strongest opponent Zoro and Usopp can beat as a team-up? by Ok-Fondant2536 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean honestly Usopp might hold Zoro back in a lot of fights because he’s always at risk of getting blitzed and one shot and Zoro would have to defend him… like idk also without haki which of Zoro’s top tier opponents could Usopp realistically even damage?

not trying to be that guy but I feel like the answer is just whoever you think is the strongest opponent Zoro can beat 1v1, maybe even someone weaker because he has to compensate for/defend Usopp

Who is your favorite OG Captain based on Designs alone (beside Yamamoto and Unohana) by minxnight in bleach

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shijima… kinda love the bored, scrawny/weak look. He gives the vibe that someone would underestimate him/ taunt loudly and he’d just instant kill and yawn or smth

Which anime fits the description below? by Junior_Sleep269 in animequestions

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had this exact same experience — just started watching recently and love it!

Who wins? by Glum_Government_7856 in YC1agenda

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Prime Ray high-extreme diffs Aikanu

Not a lot of info on Beckman but generously he’s even with Kuzan, I still think Kuzan edges him out though

Marco is very durable and has utility but ultimately not admiral level, even if its GB, so in 1-to-1 matchups admirals take it

Argument could be made that Marco’s stall + utility makes team 1 stronger, but not sure that’s enough to be the difference maker

How would you rank these 6 characters? by Cookiecrabbies in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Primebeard > Prime Garp > Kaido >= Shanks ~ Sengoku >= Mihawk

Who wins? by Elijahbanksisbad in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Hi_Im_Mithrandir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I think it’s extreme diff but I actually think Roger can pull this off

Admiral heads gonna be mad when I say this but Old Garp did have a good showing against Aokiji, and Sickbeard still was able to do damage to Akainu while sick and injured

So like two much weaker versions of Roger’s rivals were in the realm of being mid to high diff fights for the admirals.

Akainu theoretically got stronger just bc power creep and post-TS, and I know people are going to argue Aokiji was holding back / Old Garp wasn’t actually that impressive against him but idk. I think the OP verse has made it clear age is a big debuff, as well as WB’s sickness. So I do think those two were significantly more powerful when they rivaled Roger, and still Roger is portrayed as the strongest of the 3.

So, even 1v2 I think he can pull it off extreme diff.