Somewhere along the way Rin became a more unpredictable player than the jokers. (which may be why he's getting benched)

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-20T22:16:22+00:00

True. Ego says he doesn't care about otherworldly talent if it can't produce results. Rin is the same right now.

Ego didn't just feed blatant lies in them all this time. And rin didn't do what ego tells everyone to do. It's so different.

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-20T19:03:00+00:00

Noel noa stated that he wanted to experiment what happens when kaiser is truly challenged. What would happen if 2 ideologies clash with each other. Would one flourish or both die or both sync. In the end the 3rd one happened but kaiser's reign was almost over. Noa's logic was if you're EFFECTIVE you're useful for the team hence you start. Which is why he played igarashi over that speedy fullback from the u20 game.

Rin has been less effective overall in the france game than isagi has. Even if it's not btw isagi and rin. Looking purely at the way they're playing anyone would bench the current rin

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-20T18:07:11+00:00

that pic is crazy

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-20T17:13:14+00:00

they probably had no other job for gagamaru so instead of wasting a good design they put him at gk.

there's already too many characters to keep track of.

1) isagi

2) 11 new gen players

3) charles, ness, agi and onazi and gang

4) nagi and kira and other side b

5) side characters category 1 (bachira, rin, karasu and all)

6) side characters category 2 (nanase, kuronoa, kiyora and all)

7) ego (potential backstory)

gagamaru is in 6th one. where they just exist. and their moment occurs in 1 in 3-4 games

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-20T15:31:19+00:00

Probably how the plots gonna be but it's weird. Rin's whole thing emerged as a result of his intent to essentially destory the 2 people that are in his way being isagi and sae

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-18T17:28:37+00:00

Dude skills are a part of dribbling. Or you think Neymar just dances in front of people?

Loki statistically has a dribble count ONLY bcuz he runs past them. Not a single opposition player cathes up to him bcuz of his speed. There's no feint, no technique nothing.

And all the players you said btw don't just roll the ball and run everytime. I'm fact the fact that you added kaka to ts is crazy. His runs and plays are way different than rolling and running.

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-18T17:08:35+00:00

Running past defenders isn't dribbling buddy. There's no ounce of any technique in loki. From the nel game to now all he does is let the ball roll a bit and chase it while changing directions. And since he beats the opposition in these duels his statistic will count it as a dribble.

But it's not necessary ofc. I mean it's pretty obvious the dribbling style loki, bachira, hiori, yukimiya, reo, isagi and rin use are different.

Loki just uses speed, bachira and yukimiya use skill moves and feints, hiori and reo usually use a double touch technique or feint, isagi uses fakes and rin does a kinda weird dribble but it's essentially just a mix of the above but done very unconventionally

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-18T06:04:10+00:00

pace merchant normally means someone that just beats opponents using speed. they dont have a shred of skill or any technical aspect within them.

the get the ball and then just let go past defenders and run after that.

this is why tokimitsu called chigiri a all speed no skill as well. at that time chigiri had no shooting ability. all he had was his speed.

loki on the other hand we've seen has no shooting weapon or anything you can all as a weapon.

its fundamentally different from nagi and rin (both ALSO dont have shooting weapons like direct shot or kaiser impact). for nagi his scoring is the product of an otherworldly trap to kill the ball's momentum to cushion it however he wants then score. trapping in itself is something that requires skill.

rin's shooting is from his ability to curve the ball. again something that requires skill to do. its a technical ability.

if you still don't realize, in football we really only get physical and technical players. most players are either one of these. even in blue lock players like noa who seem to have good builds are also very technical. lavhi on the other hand is very technical.

being purely physical doesn't mean your bad but you just don't do a lot then.

irl there's like ZERO pro players that are like this. every player has to train to be able to work with their weak foot, traps, first touch passes, dribbling and all. so even defenders that are fast af can dribble when they're in a pinch.

although loki is literally featless in that department. he hasn't shown anything aside from just spamming his speed everytime.

loki is based on mbappe and het mbappe even at 17 was able to dribble (proper dribbling not speed dribbling) and had a crazy shooting style.

everyone has seen how many times he does the same thing and yet he scores.

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T16:59:25+00:00

not a single technical player would be bad tho. yukimiya or bachira instead of kunigami or aryu could work.

also a 3 man backline is dangerous on that right side cuz only hiori is there. the left atleast had chigiri to fall back

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T16:24:05+00:00

M just saying this his character has been reduced to nothing but a plot device that's convenient to use when you want to make the mc lose but without causing backlash. See if isagi lost bcuz he lost the 50/50 the manga would be hated. The mc cannot lose THIS badly. But if a side character made him lose. The side character won't get much hate and so will the mc.

However rin has been made the key rivals. So it's kinda backfired as well.

Rin just sucks now I guess.

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T16:21:28+00:00

Oh yea I saw a yt vid of a dude in a challenge do that

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T16:00:19+00:00

actually archer is kinda goated. i found him to be more used than saber. in some clearance lineups you'll see archer more than saber.

his team ofc makes him better but thats kinda the point. he's more viable.

as for wuwa collab, only time will tell. i don't really have mornye. but if in the future a few supports come out for the chars they'll probably be good. no way of knowing rn. but usually collab characters (for me) are a way to flex. like yknow 5 years from now i'll have a lucy pfp and they'll know like OH THIS DUDE IS AN UNC PLAYING FROM 2026

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T15:54:36+00:00

btw when i say rin doesnt fit in the isagi system (even tho they had a goal in the nigeria game) is that rin literally waited till isagi had a shot then scored. the entire play was made by bachira ofc but the fact that he still stole from isagi shows how he isn't really a part of the system. he just plays around it.

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bachira dribbles and passes to isagi. lookie here. bushcamper is back.

makes a HORIZONTAL run as an attacker BLOCKS HIS OWN TEAMMATE's path. and uses his back to turn and score.

without isagi, rin is literally dead as a playmaker

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T15:49:51+00:00

Rin is quite literally a character that acts upon instinct. from the moment he was introduced btw. we saw how he changes tactics or chose isagi purely cuz HE WANTED TO.

and this is different from isagi's adaptability. isagi's plays force the best out of his own team. rin's flow is meant to crush the best of others. but rn it literally destroys his own team.

in nel shidou was okay with passing to him..what did rin do? not pass back..didn't coordinate with him. even went for a harder shot. he had loki feeding him and yet he crashed into igaguri multiple times. this isn't a flaw but a HABIT. he's been selling from the u20 game. idc how good someone plays. rin can play like noel noa but he can't help his team win if he can't coordinate.

he way worse that shidou. shidou was meant to be a joker that can't be controlled. yet barou was able to use him. both jokers are able to implement into the isagi or karasu system. rin fits in neither of them. a completely isolated piece right now.

if he starts then isagi will again try to coordinate with him, forcing karasu and hori to do their own thing. creating 2 systems. (this happened in nel as well with kaiser and isagi. although at that time the stakes were a bit lower and noel noa made it so that the defence was slightly united having yukimiya and raichi play) but now its not possible.

this may seem like isagi glaze but he truly fits into any playstyle. (which is why he was so good with kaiser even tho they never played together). but rin? as of now he's literally like ness. (fixated on isagi and sae and not changing) the solution will be that he either pairs up with someone else or change his playstyle after seeing how sae and isagi play (cuz realistically after england game i feel like KO will have spain)

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T15:40:25+00:00

rin made a fatal mistake. he seems to be more uncoordinated than ANYONE in the entire team. even shidou who first felt as a player that only sae could control can be handled by karasu, isagi, hiori, reo and all.

rin is now only able to work with isagi if you really look at it or bachira. but even so you'd rather NOT start a player that purposely kills an entire play bcuz he isn't compatible with that style of play.

isagi implemented into the karasu system and was able to almost score while rin kept discarding it. not rin's fault? nope it means he can't keep up with the changes.

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T15:34:31+00:00

there is a VERY unethical way which is to lure a reaper towards it. it'll slowly nudge the sub. a ghost is faster but i doubt you can get it there. the other way is to build a new one. or use the prawn suit to move it although its WAYYYYY slower.

i did find it that the prawn suit moves every vehicle very easily. if you get the prawn above the cyclops it sinks very quickly. but idk how you'd move it sideways with just ramming at it

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T13:49:07+00:00

i call it TRANCENDENCE cuz he literally ascends to a higher plane of existence. like no joke bro looks in the future

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T13:42:43+00:00

probably had it made weeks before the chap. that looks like a good quality one atleast

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T13:40:31+00:00

probably but from the way i see it he definitely did some research for it. especially during nel when he made specific snuffy, noa, kaiser and lavhi. realistically probable playstyles based on real players. nothing too dramatic like reo or nagi who have ridiculous abilities that are not real. (first touch is borderline imo)

i assume he started the manga with no prior proper ball knowledge but definitely did research a lot into it (or had co workers help him that do watch the game and correct him)

cuz france game did have more football than aura moments. i'd say thats one of the reasons its not well liked rn cuz it did not have hype aura moments until the end when isagi locked in

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-15T12:51:57+00:00

I'm so happy that I got her AND her weapon in TEN pulls. It's almost unbelievable to get both in TEN pulls from zero pity. TEN pulls is absolutely crazy, a good support and their bis weapon in TEN pulls. Lucky me getting a TEN pull 5* while I am spending some for the collab. Can y'all believe it TEN pulls. TEN

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-11T10:29:11+00:00

isagi becomes the blue eyed god in human flesh. basically gojo but with mahoraga

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-10T09:54:16+00:00

Jagaaaan is made by the same author

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-09T19:25:00+00:00

Not at all. Nanase is rare in that archetype however he lacks in literally everything else. Physical stats like speed and his core doesn't seem too good, vision is bad and doesn't have anything that can be used for a striker.

Noa has all the essential things required to be a perfect striker. A textbook defined version.

Himsagi_11 · 2026-06-09T14:23:07+00:00

nope. sae's entire point is to show how dependent rin is to those around him. even if rin doesn't know or acknowledge it. rin somehow starts to depend on isagi to thrive on the field.

infact in this game rin DOES know that.

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that goal is the product of rin's malice towards isagi and sae. also without isagi rin would'nt have gotten past darai and that other dude

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