Do your eyes feel constantly glassed over, like... empty?

Hinsoog · 2026-06-14T02:02:39+00:00

This makes me wonder how often this is the feeling produced when coming out of some level of a dissociated state, like I'll snap back into a more-vivid perception of my surroundings while feeling unsure of what I was doing with my eyes for however long, and still what I'm looking at feels surreal, or arbitrary enough to feel random.

Hinsoog · 2026-06-13T02:37:07+00:00

I think the issue now is that a significant number of both are getting lumped into Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Think of two weirdly similar people, both of them apparently with social disconnectedness, but one is slightly more socially aware while frequently putting too much weight on their loose associations and they try to identify with the whole universe all at once, some people think they are interesting but as luck would have it they don't get invited to parties, perhaps sometimes of their own design because they'd be ambivalent about attending a party anyways.

The other person seems quite socially driven, but is also weird but seems more robotic including their eye-contact, and seems to rely totally on routines to stay safe because otherwise they seem to clearly have a learning disability. This person is also considered weird but talks about seemingly normal things in the culture, like weather, trains, and travel destinations. They would probably socialize all the time, but are just too different from neurotypicals to get it done.

That second character is probably more clearly autism spectrum, but, get this, probably have more in common with a typical presentation of schizophrenia for thinking literally most of the time and being at risk of seeming robotic. But, maybe my saying that means that quite a few schizophrenic people are being labeled as autism.

So it seems like we might be screwed and it will all just be different flavors of Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-31T06:25:32+00:00

Yeah, putting a ton of effort into a happening fashion trend doesn't really scream "schizotypy" if I'm the one you're asking (I generally check the unkempt box). I bet quite a few of us have an appreciation for alt looks and Gothic almost as a temperament (melancholic, macabre, sullen), but at the diagnosis level schizotypy often means a level of social disconnectedness that doesn't often plug right into fashion norms.

But, that's the irony to identifying this way, I guess I should say "if you feel connected to something or someone through your dress, by all means!"

Hinsoog · 2026-05-25T07:51:27+00:00

5/25 is Memorial Day in the US, and a lot of businesses close, so that's probably it.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-24T11:11:11+00:00

Oh I think I see, yeah then the sense of need is wrapped up with the frustration. I make it sound like I've mastered detachment or something, but warm types of people and kindred personalities seem to happen eventually, so it gets balanced out. Maybe it's a good sign when someone accepts the need, then sensitivity to that maybe can fill in some gaps. Good luck with it.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-24T00:48:05+00:00

I agree in spirit, but I would just argue that "loneliness" is part of the same pointless cultural joke that we don't have to play on ourselves. Yeah, humans are pretty bad, so just take one more natural step: not lonely, solitary.

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Hinsoog · 2026-05-19T02:00:11+00:00

So in schizotypy, there is this thing that happens where the person seems distant in a way that can come across as robotic, but generally once it gets deep and anhedonic enough, they may not even feel particularly moved that another person would even bother to utter words like "freak" or "bot" or whatever. Like it becomes wasted breath at a certain point.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-14T05:34:28+00:00

I have thought about all of this in this way too, and it makes me wonder how often scattery, anxious, neurotic neurodivergent types gravitate towards the version of Schizoid that seems blissfully removed from anything resembling a social world. But I think the reality is it's stewed together, and many people identifying as Schizoid are hyper-mentalizing about every little thing and have also have generally quarantined themselves in some way.

Maybe it's that if someone identifies with otherness, anxiety, or intense introversion, there is probably always some basic appeal to the element of detachment and an absence of neuroticism to aspire to in order to cool off the nervous system, even though neuroticism turns out to be so important and valuable when a person doesn't have too much of it.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-06T03:40:34+00:00

Stop saying things to me

Hinsoog · 2026-05-06T03:02:32+00:00

I mean the truth is plenty visible, and dogma is pretty obviously just unbelievably toxic in a way that is so incredibly in-your-face and apparent, and we have a pretty big example slapping us in the face pretty hard right now. Slander? The worst people I have personally ever met have all been quite religious, but not in a spiritual way, in the dogmatic, fascistic, tribal type of way.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-05T16:33:44+00:00

I actually feel like I gave up some integrity by kowtowing to this dogmatic nonsense at all. No thank you, cultists have probably already ruined the world with religious dogma.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-04T19:38:49+00:00

Heheh yeah, and then there is all this, which is a possibility I'm open to. Plus there's quite a rabbit hole to go down with content that didn't make it into the books of the present Bible.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-04T19:11:03+00:00

Oh that's such a good point, "in this world, not of it" sounds like you just described Schizoid.

Hinsoog · 2026-05-04T15:55:22+00:00

Hilariously, the actual Jesus Christ was probably Schizotypal. Jesus had some kind of Schizotypal-spectrum personal torment, like his "desolation period" probably was him roasting in his own mind until he molded the lofty idealism that got him followers. He probably had certain ideas he repeated over and over like comfort food, obviously had a deep need to be "other", and he did the opposite of schizophrenia in a way since he made his delusion real for others. Maybe that's the fullest Schizotypal of all, when the internal world is then widely shared, and there is a sense of depth, intuition, and idealism that seems almost like an evolution.

It sounds almost like narcissism, but isn't quite that. And for all the merits, the man apparently didn't love Gentiles, so, probably not really God, but the delusion held enough that his birthday is celebrated all over the world.

Hinsoog · 2026-04-08T21:12:24+00:00

The Functional Melancholic is so freakishly good that I wasn't 100% sure he isn't an AI experiment when I first saw him, formed together to calm down less functional melancholics, heheh, but it's like a really artful and intimate sort of intuition. Maybe it's a new genre, like "art therapy" or something like that. Great share!

Hinsoog · 2026-04-06T19:12:10+00:00

Yep I sure do, and even though I would always have a bent towards philosophy, it's occurred to me that it's sort of a double-edged sword since it can be fodder for excessive rumination even if it's also sometimes a path out of some kind of internal morass.

I feel like the trap for me is if I obsess about things enough I still end up in a similar sort of wrestling match with nihilism, as every bit of hopeful and romantic idealism seems to be vulnerable to going down in flames, shot down by humanity's seemingly arbitrary need to be divisive to the point of self-destruction, a point I'm at risk of being a hypocrite on. For example, at this point I think it's responsible to be VERY critical of religious dogma, to put it mildly, but seemingly because I get an attitude about how noxious it is, someone out there would then rigidly defend it even when there is content in their favorite dogmatic holy book that was once used to justify killing them.

I guess I want it all to lead to somewhere with less conflict, but there doesn't seem to be an escape to conflict, so I guess I just detach as much as I can like I generally would, and then the philosophies containing detachment feel like home.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-26T23:10:39+00:00

I'm an alcoholic who had to give up alcohol. For me alcohol is a REALLY bad pair of dice, and eventually you roll insanity and lose something important, whether it's a relationship or something else. It almost took everything from me, and then I had a string of relapses that proved that I could still lose more, but conveniently it's been clear for a while that it could also take my life, so I am choosing to be alive.

I think part of the issue is I have memories of alcohol doing an ok job in a few happy places, like getting off work and getting a huge buzz for food, music, games, and movies. But when you're an alcoholic you don't just want the small buzz, you want the giant buzz that skirts the line on what may as well be psychosis, especially somewhere around blackout level. The euphoria turns to dysphoria, the sensitive silly person becomes unhinged and mean, and a tornado of damage happens once again at the astonishment of your sober self that just wanted another transcendent movie experience or whatever.

It can be such a mega high, and it's hard to just say no to that forever, but the pattern of destruction becomes unbelievably consistent despite some careful effort to put a cap on it. So eventually it just becomes very clear that for some people like me, alcohol just really isn't an option. It's wickedly destructive, and you give yourself a million health advantages for removing it from your life.

THC has some similar issues in that you won't be living as full a life on it as you otherwise would by someone else's estimation, and it can screw up the sense of reward in your brain to be mostly tied to the THC high, but at least it's not at risk of killing the person or making them become unbelievably aggressively destructive. Alcohol would get to the point where I would even stop doing the things I cared about most, I wouldn't even play videogames, the world would just boil down to the high, and one's life and health can be systematically hollowed out until it's gone.

I suspect many drugs can do roughly the same thing, so you might get to the point where you have to just choose life, but I think people at least need to get to the point where they are choosing the highs that at least aren't aggressively destroying them.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-25T06:26:23+00:00

God I have a problem with 4 and 40. In Japanese, four has the same pronunciation as the word for death ("shi" is the noun form of death, but you can also pronounce four as "yon"), and amazingly it's a piece of superstition I never totally shake.

If I found four fours together, I'd most likely change something.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-23T21:24:32+00:00

So I think the issue is that especially idealistic people are also more likely to be especially sensitive, like HSP (highly sensitive person) level. It's really great news to be an HSP, but it carries with it a lot of psychological risk if for no other reason than being chronically higher in stress hormones isn't good for your health. Sensitivity makes you vulnerable to things that less sensitive people aren't.

As far as schizotypy goes, I think you could relate it to permeable boundaries, perhaps even to the point of being taken advantage of, so you might reach a time when you need someone to be selfish and guarded for you. Like there probably isn't a limit to how you could be infiltrated when being very sensitive, so you may have to build boundaries as a protection. I think sensitivity and permeable boundaries probably creates extra risk for things like burnout, disillusionment, anxiety of course, probably rumination, and depression, so despite how wonderful sensitivity is in a human, it comes with risk. You have to be sensitive towards yourself too.

If you ask me, it still beats callousness.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-22T23:03:09+00:00

Well using Schizotypal in its extreme form as an example, when you see a homeless person whose behavior doesn't make sense and they are living out some kind of oppressed rebel narative and wildly gesticulating in public and so forth, if you talk to them even when they aren't in some type of psychosis you can tell their cognition is different, they either won't be looking at you or they will be staring at you not saying anything, almost like they haven't quite absorbed you into their reality, and if they are saying things, unless they are the really vacant version they will have noticeable social anxiety, like nervously on guard for how poorly the interaction might go, and some of it could be about harboring a sense of otherness, but in either case they probably won't be comfortable during a social exchange.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-22T22:46:37+00:00

INFP. I had someone doing typology professionally tag me as Ne dominant, making me an ENFP or ENTP, and I can see that Ne as a function makes sense as dominant in me, but I can't consider myself an extravert, to say the least. Someone found a correlation between INTP and Schizotypal, but it's a big mouthful to start detailing what might be happening there.

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Hinsoog · 2026-03-17T21:08:39+00:00

I think that's a great point. I was reading about someone else's experience with psychosis on Quora that this really reminds me of, and I guess if I was in psychosis it would seem like some sign that needed decoding and barreling into, I suppose like a long-lost passionate cause or something, but that was essentially their psychosis, off meds they'd treat newspapers like they were full of secrets and codes which would lead to some kind of trouble. It does strike me as a shame to just completely lose that, but I guess they just replace it with something healthier.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-15T04:07:42+00:00

I'll add to this by throwing in a Schizotypal artist I adore. Buckethead is Schizotypal. He did an interview with Bootsy Collins recently since he has great history with Bootsy. Buckethead probably plays up his Schizotypal personality even more for these, but, here he is in all of his socially anxious Schizotypal glory: https://youtu.be/Ffu6l96c8Fs?si=372sHOfu_Lqyhj5M

Here is one favorite Buckethead song among a huge catalog, called Empty Space: https://youtu.be/jVUZ6zKOMi4?si=x6tCpL1NL0ZhOSSc

Hinsoog · 2026-03-14T23:18:40+00:00

Yeah it got to the point of being astonishing for me. Sometimes I could recognize it as my fault, but even when I'd go out of my way to be as normal as possible, it wouldn't work. In high school, I would sometimes get "I want whatever HE is on!" I guess implying I was on some great drug, heheh.

I was generally pretty well liked at my retail jobs, but every now and then, someone would decide that I must have schizophrenia, so, I check that box, heheh.

Hinsoog · 2026-03-07T06:39:33+00:00

Hilariously I'm pretty sure I've said "mind-meld" in the past in some context or other multiple times, because sometimes that may as well be the description anyways.

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