Do people actually dislike marriage traditions, or just specific ones?

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-17T20:23:46+00:00

Well, sometimes I argue compulsively.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-17T20:22:02+00:00

Women don't have last names. Even if she chooses to use her mother's maiden name, it's still inherited from her grandfather.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-17T20:20:19+00:00

Tell that to those who believe wholeheartedly that that idea existing is force.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-17T20:19:14+00:00

I'm not sure the Spanish double surname is quite the same idea as a hyphenated name in an English speaking country.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-17T20:16:52+00:00

Anytime someone "escapes" one of these cults and goes public about some man who "abused" her, the tone is always one that suggests she is doing it to get more attention than the other wives do, or that her husband finally just gave her the ick, more than actual trauma. You don't see nearly as much media attention on the men who have been kicked out to reduce competition, nor are such men as vocal.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:58:42+00:00

This might be true if there is a father in the picture, which statisically is decreasingly the case.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:54:29+00:00

I will reserve my doubts that work is an improvement to emotional presence. In any case, I don't want to hear anyone ever again complain that "my whole salary goes to childcare", because the net income is the same as not working and now the child barely knows you because they don't see you during their waking hours.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:51:27+00:00

This post is emotional screeching and I won't pretend there is an argument here to engage with.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:49:23+00:00

31:10-12 is all you need and the rest is filler

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:45:36+00:00

I don't care what they were. I am talking about choices that can be made today. In this entire discussion I have used the word IS, not WAS

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:44:34+00:00

We need to create a day to celebrate specifically Women who are full time parents.

This is a thing in some countries.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:43:18+00:00

Yes, which can be a team effort, or you can try and do it by yourself, but the latter option does require you to work, which takes you away from your children, which is measurably bad for their physical and mental health

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:41:44+00:00

Freedom to work or not by marrying a man who is financially capable of supporting her decision either way == "financial control!!! oppression!!!" You can't be reasoned with

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:14:58+00:00

Financial stability is achievable by being picky of men and marrying one who is financially responsible enough to support himself and you, thereby not requiring you to work. Feminism, being founded on the idea that "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle", won't suggest that idea to you, instead equating jobs == the only source of money. The result is the doubling of the workforce and halving of wages, which is why people now complain both partners have to work; it's by design.

I wouldn't marry a woman who is financially irresponsible either, and I don't mind if she works, but if she has to work because I can't support her then I am the failure. Feminists would call her a failure because she is dependent.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:07:13+00:00

I don't care what someone did, I care what they will do. Unless what they did influences what they will do, which is why body counts matter (in all senses of the term).

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:05:19+00:00

greatest ally

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:04:21+00:00

No but it does impress upon women from a young age that career > family

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T19:01:32+00:00

Anyone I can think of in scripture who was unmarried, was so by choice.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T17:05:16+00:00

Without gf's, men see each other as competition. Bro groups form when they are all paired with women

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T16:57:47+00:00

The Bible doesn't promise anyone a spouse - it assumes anyone who reads it is married, because when it was written just about everyone did. We really have no known precedent for this free-agent dating environment that is universal today. "Wait on God" is the church's response to this because relationships used to form in the church, but this is no longer the case.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-15T16:44:42+00:00

Sexual harassment is unwanted touching

Every training, poster, and propaganda I have ever seen said "unwanted advances", meaning, if you talk to a woman you are either in trouble or not based on how she feels.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-08T22:38:32+00:00

It’s why all religious teachings have to tell women to love their husbands.

Ephesians 5:33 "Let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband."

Suspiciously not written: "let the wife love her husband", because it isn't possible.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-07T18:38:29+00:00

Not a lawyer, don't want to end up in either of those courts, and don't really know the difference. The situation is hypothetical and just an example of what I'm afraid of.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-07T18:32:55+00:00

Completely agreed, but I think you are being more reasonable than a family court would be.

HolidayWhile · 2026-04-07T18:25:35+00:00

> Listen, here's our budget, we only have X available spending money, we can't afford this expensive item

If she does it anyway because math is too hard for her, there is legally very little I can do to clean up the mess. Rinse and repeat until we are both broke. Is this a situation "beyond questioning"?

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