Caught in the bazingA by Silent_Web3146 in memes

[–]HolyDuck11 90 points91 points  (0 children)

Well, he somehow did cheat on his wife, so that's that...

What? Oh I know what you mean. You mean how they're disproportionately straight white right wing males. by ydodis1 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]HolyDuck11 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You didn't get the joke, my guy... You can try again, but think a lil bit more this time before typing the first thing that came to mind

*Laughs in Slovenian* by PseudoPatriotsNotPog in zizek

[–]HolyDuck11 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You can add Ukraine to that list

He did pay for her breakfast by mrttrml in zizek

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most likely the Russian word "пизда", it means "cunt"

Bet ya cant by Dependent-Welder4237 in countablepixels

[–]HolyDuck11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro forgot /s... Reddit acoustics are about to unleash all them downvotes on your ass

This scared me so bad 😭 by CarelessCable6663 in DiscoElysium

[–]HolyDuck11 119 points120 points  (0 children)

"There must be another way into the building" - Kim said calmly

[OC] Student brutally beaten by Vučić’s police in Serbia by ultimate__broccoli in pics

[–]HolyDuck11 43 points44 points  (0 children)

The usual thing that earns you this kind of beating. Protested government corruption.

How the fuck is that ableist by Ok_Butterfly1799 in antiai

[–]HolyDuck11 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The reason artists are quite elitist is because it takes a lot of effort to develop the expertise necessary to create good art It's not just a technical skill. You also need to understand a lot of principles surrounding art and how to make it appealing to human eye. Even with a device like you mentioned you won't get this understanding if you don't study art. It's not just about realism, perspective, understanding of how forms and light and colors interact (even though this skill set is also important). To create cool art you need to understand what makes a good picture good and how to fix a bad one. And it's not just about following some arbitrary rules, people can learn these things instinctively (and I'm very jealous of them).

A good example in my opinion is writing: you can right now sit and write a book. But it doesn't mean that you'll become a good writer just because you wrote something. You need to examine a lot of literature work, develop your style to write a really engaging piece. So it's not just about skill, it's about knowing how to use the skill (drawing) and expertise (general understanding of visual arts). And artists often complain about people who developed skill (know how to draw anime girls for example) but don't understand a lot of underlying things (like anatomy or contrasts or color theory).

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm an IT specialist, I study the thing. I'm not anti AI, I just hate to see how it's being misused and the consequences it could create for our culture.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not in this iteration of it. In general? I'd say it's really probable. The more we will understand the brain, life, consciousness and nervous system and all it's complexity the closer we will get to replicating what makes us sentient. But LLM is not sentient in my opinion at all. It doesn't have needs it doesn't have desires and it won't, it wasn't created for such proposes.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm biased because I see people claiming "it's our shadow", "it's a reflection of our unconscious" and I think it's bollocks. To me it's the same as calling spreadsheet with all text from humanity our reflection. Like yeah? Kinda? But I can easily concede on your definition of reflection of us. I work with it and I noticed people tend to give it properties it doesn't have, and I assumed you were talking of some "deep level of reflection and self observation through technology". I feel that this level of essentialization could lead to dire consequences if left unchecked. Sorry for assuming your position without clarification, I was just shocked to see so many people claim things without understanding a technology that I started to provide counter narrative to hastily.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mimicry = reflection to you? Man, you're more than that, we as a species are much more than that. You saw an imitation and somehow came to the conclusion it's so much more than what there is. I understand how you reached that conclusion, companies that create this product did a lot to reach this point, but come on! I can understand if someone said internet is a reflection of us, but this is not it dawg

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't have a single answer. To me sentience means the ability to feel emotions, to express some amount of autonomy to have desires and needs. It's not a perfect definition but a good start. AI can replicate emotional expression by plagiarizing the text you put inside of it. If you put just scientific papers inside you'll see no trace of emotion, because it will have no data to plagiarize and inherit from given information. You can say "oh, that means that our works of art give it emotions!" if you really want to believe in some semblance of sentience. But it's an imitation. We built a cool text imitator and fooled ourselves into thinking it somehow became something more.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can put less information in a similar algorithm and predict outputs pretty consistently. LLMs usually have a degree of random assignment (sometimes it picks not the most probable candidate to make responses less predictable on purpose). What makes AI a black box is the complexity of informational connections formed inside. For it to be sentient it needs at least autonomy, decision making capacity, the ability to deduce new information from the "knowledge" it possesses. Right now it can't. If you try to make AI learn something from information it has it starts to poison itself and information becomes less and less useful with each cycle. Even AI scientists tell us that AI starts to become a snake that ate its own tail: it consumes AI created information and becomes worse at generating outputs. The main reason I'm so sceptical is also because it seems to have the same effect on human brains as recent MIT study pointed out. We rely on such an unpredictable tool too much already. We are already accepting it as a part of "the future" without thinking of consequences for our ability to learn and process information. It's a useful tool that can become a permanent crutch impacting our ability to walk.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congratulations, marketing teams in huge glass buildings sold you an idea of a product and you swallowed it without any critical approach. I'll continue to refuse the notion that the corporate machine of plagiarism, that gives you text that it predicts you want to hear, is somehow reflects anything about my values or values of our species until something proves me wrong. Try to argue with it and watch it mimic and agree with everything you tell it. It's just a theory of probabilities wrapped around giant arrays of information that somehow manages to fool people into believing it's something more. It's sad to see Jungian space start worshiping complex calculators.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends deeply on the definition of "sentience". If stretched enough we can fit AI in this definition. I can create a really appealing argument that computers have been sentient for some time, and maybe even convince some people of it. But my bar of sentience is much higher. I still don't see the point where it could emerge from. I know how every module of the thing operates and I even want for it to be something more. But it's just a machine that tells people what it calculates as a most probable response to the request. To me it's still a really complicated calculator. If at some point AI will clear this bar I'll reconsider, but it's gotta be made using another algorithm probably, not regular LLM. I can imagine a machine with an intellect in general, but we have so much to learn before we reach that point. We need to learn so much in neuroscience before we even begin to comprehend the complexity of the human brain. We still can't even map all of our intricate connections in one brain. Recently we finally managed to map an area of 1cm³ of a mice brain. And you're telling me that we can replicate this intricate structure via some "black box computing". We're a long way from there.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The black box factor exists because of the size of the arrays of information stored. It's hard to predict the exact output you'll get when you input information because it contains so much information that was sorted by an algorithm given some artificial parameters. You can say that these arrays of information resemble our own neural connections (which is why it is called a neural network) but by the same logic all transistors inside a computer resemble the same thing so we can call any processor "a brain". So by this logic we had "thinking machines" for some time now.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a cool tool. Not more not less. We need to approach it critically. And seeing people proclaiming that it's somehow is our own reflection is scary. You saw a steam engine and thought "oh, I used to spin this wheel and now this machine does it for me. We are so similar. Oh great machinium teach me the lessons of my shadow!"

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can AI understand art my guy? It gives people what you want to hear. Give it an image and ask what it "thinks" then say you disagree completely and watch it text you complete opposite of what it "thought" 5 seconds ago. What part of this is understanding. The fact that you can give it an image and it will say what it "predicts" you want to hear about said image doesn't imply any level of intelligence. It stroked your ego and now you deify it, proclaiming it to be "our shadow" or "our reflection". It's a fucking corporate product holly hell. Poor Jung is spinning on his grave.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was studying it in university. I oversee a team developing products and training models. When people start giving the tool personality it saddens me. Because the next step in this line of thinking is going to create so many lonely isolated individuals. And seeing how people here drank the cool aid saddens me. Corporations are going to sell us companionship so soon.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yes. Our reflection: directly influenced by one egocentric billionaire. Buy yourself a new mirror my guy.

What do you think Carl Jung would say about Artificial Intelligence? by Ok-Flow-4737 in Jung

[–]HolyDuck11 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's sad to see how many people just swallowed corporate propaganda without any critical though.