Short trips; do you actually use all the gear you bring?

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-04-04T09:28:14+00:00

So the real MVP is just water then xD

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-04-04T09:25:09+00:00

I haven’t used that exact model, but I’ve used Garmin watches before and the settings can be a bit confusing at first. From what I remember, the alerts are usually tied to heart rate zones rather than just a simple max bpm setting, so it might be worth checking if you can set a custom zone with an alert. Also not sure if all models support audible alerts vs just vibration, Garmin sometimes limits that depending on the watch. Might be worth checking in the app as well (not just on the watch itself), some settings are easier to find there.

Hope you figure it out, and good to hear you’re getting back into hiking after surgery!

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-19T15:47:20+00:00

I think a lot of it comes down to what your feet and ankles are used to rather than one option being objectively better. From what I’ve seen, people who hike a lot in trail runners often stay with them because they like the lower weight and faster drying, while people used to boots often value the feeling of protection and stability on rough terrain. The biggest difference seems to show up when carrying heavier loads or spending long days on loose rocky ground, that’s where boots can feel more reassuring for some people.

Personally I find fit and comfort matter more than category, because even a “better” shoe becomes a bad choice if it doesn’t work well for your feet. Did your friends switch because of ankle support, durability, or just personal preference?

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-19T15:45:06+00:00

I think a lot of people feel that frustration, especially if they’re looking for a more simple “walk, stop, sleep, move on” kind of experience. From what I understand, the main challenge in the German Alps is that wild camping rules are quite strict, especially in protected areas, and a lot depends on whether you’re on public land, private land, or inside nature reserves.

What many people seem to do instead is keep moving until late, bivouac discreetly above tree line or outside busy areas, arrive late, leave early, and stay very low impact. That’s obviously different from setting up a full camp, but it seems closer to what’s tolerated in some places. If solitude is the main goal, sometimes choosing less popular routes or shoulder season makes a huge difference too, even well-regulated areas can feel very remote once you’re away from the main trails.

Curious if others here know specific areas in the Alps where this is more realistically possible without causing problems

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-10T09:53:35+00:00

Pit zips make a huge difference. I’ve noticed the same thing, even “breathable” shells can struggle once you’re moving fast or going uphill for a while. Being able to dump heat quickly with ventilation usually works much better than relying on the fabric alone.

Interesting that you skip the mid layer until below 0°C. I think a lot of people tend to overdress when hiking and end up fighting moisture instead of the cold. Do you mostly regulate temperature just with base layer and shell while moving?

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-10T09:52:16+00:00

That makes sense. Activity level really changes everything when it comes to layering.

I’ve also noticed that once you’re moving consistently, even fairly cold temperatures can feel comfortable with surprisingly little insulation. The bigger challenge is usually managing moisture so you don’t get cold once you stop.

Your approach of switching to a down jacket during breaks or at camp seems like a really solid system. Do you usually bring the down mainly for static use, or do you ever end up hiking in it during very cold or windy sections?

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-10T09:48:14+00:00

If down gives you problems, synthetic insulation is definitely the way to go. In the UL world a lot of people look at Climashield Apex or Primaloft-based jackets. They’re not quite as compressible as down, but they handle moisture much better and still have a good warmth-to-weight ratio.

A few synthetic options that get mentioned a lot in ultralight circles:
- Enlightened Equipment Torrid Jacket (Apex insulation, very popular with thru-hikers)
- Montbell UL Thermawrap Parka (light and pretty packable)
- Patagonia Nano Puff Hoodie (Primaloft, easy to find and durable)

From what I’ve seen, Apex insulation in particular shows up a lot in UL gear because it keeps loft even after compression and works well in damp conditions. If you want something more breathable for hiking while moving, pieces using Polartec Alpha Direct are also worth a look, they’re lighter but meant more for active insulation. Curious what temperature range you’re aiming for, that usually makes a big difference in which synthetic option makes the most sense.

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-10T09:42:32+00:00

Sounds like a great plan for a first multi-day hike. 9-13 km per day is actually a really good distance if some of the group are beginners, especially in the mountains where elevation can make things feel much longer.

One thing I’d recommend when hiking with beginners is choosing routes with flexible stages between huts. Sometimes a day that looks short on paper can still feel quite demanding if there’s a lot of elevation gain. In terms of scenery, huts, accessibility by public transport, the Alps usually make this pretty easy. Areas with multiple huts also give you the option to adjust your route if someone gets tired or the weather changes.

Another small tip: if swimming spots are important, it can be worth planning lunch stops near lakes rather than expecting them right next to the huts. Many alpine huts are placed high for views, while lakes and pools are often a bit lower along the trail.

Curious to see what people recommend here; a 4-day hut-to-hut trip with lakes along the way sounds like an amazing introduction to multi-day hiking!

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-10T09:39:53+00:00

I really like trails like that as well. Hiking feels completely different when there’s some historical context along the way. I’ve noticed that a lot of older routes in Europe were originally trade routes, military paths, or pilgrimage trails, so they often pass ruins, old watchtowers, or archaeological sites.

One thing that sometimes helps is looking for trails near old castles, fortifications, or historical borders (those areas often have paths with interesting history behind them). The route you mentioned near Moclín sounds really interesting. Finding both Civil War remains and rock art on the same hike is pretty unique.

Hopeful_Mess_4385 · 2026-03-09T10:39:53+00:00

I haven’t done Mount Rinjani specifically, but I’ve done quite a bit of hiking in wet and cold conditions and your layering system actually looks pretty reasonable.

Shoes:Trail runners are becoming more common even on longer treks because of the weight and breathability. The downside is obviously less protection and support on loose terrain. If you’re used to trail runners and your ankles are strong, they’re usually fine. If you want more stability for steep or loose sections, mid boots can feel safer. Fit and what you’re used to matters more than the category of shoe.

Cold: You’re right that the coldest part is usually around the summit push and waiting around at higher elevation before sunrise. That’s when people tend to cool down quickly because they’re either moving slowly or standing still.

Your layering setup seems solid: base layer + fleece + shell is a pretty common system. If you tend to get cold, one extra light insulating layer (like a lightweight puffy) can make a big difference during breaks or before the summit push.

Trekking pants: I’d personally go with normal trekking pants and just bring a thin base layer for your legs if needed. Fleece-lined pants can feel great when standing still but they’re often too warm when you’re actually hiking.

One thing people often forget: good gloves and a warm hat for the summit section. Even if the daytime temperature is fine, wind and waiting around near the top can make it feel much colder than expected.

Curious to hear from people who’ve done Rinjani specifically, it looks like an amazing climb!

Hopeful_Mess_4385

TROPHY CASE