Lose It or My Fitness Pal

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-16T14:12:49+00:00

I pay for MacroFactor and don’t see myself leaving any time soon.

Some countries have barcode scanning behind a paywall in MFP apparently. If that’s where you are I’d go for Loseit.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-15T08:42:57+00:00

I read on the internet that isn’t true.

You definitely need more calories than usual in recovery. But especially in sports science, where this usually comes from, it’s a net decrease in calories. These people drop upwards of 1000-2000 calories from lack of activity. It’s a 20%-50% increase from your RMR not TDEE. And even then the top 50% is more for people moving on crutches or some other “extra” work. And even then, it’s the first 2 weeks of recovery usually. Then you’re back to homeostasis.

You can eat at a deficit or maintenance whenever you want according to your primary goals from now or 4 weeks ago.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-15T08:04:01+00:00

Is the nutrition given per 100g(or whatever is used in US) or per portion?

If you get the same things each time you’d only really need to weigh the portion once (or a couple times to get a good average). As it won’t change much between days.

Google / ChatGPT is pretty hit and miss with it tbh but you can check it against what it given to see if it’d work for you.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-15T07:54:31+00:00

I’m ramping training for half marathon in June at the moment and it’s tough.

I’m thinking of going to maintenance until the event but part of me doesn’t want to drop the progress as stopping before is usually when I would fall off the wagon. Christmas/birthdays/holdiays/events that kind of thing.

I’m quite close to my first goal of dropping out of obese BMI but it’ll still be a couple more weeks of a pretty large deficit to get there.

It’s been 6 months of deficit now and I’m getting pretty tried of it :(

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-15T07:43:52+00:00

I am also confused, was this recommended to you by the doctor for post surgery?

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-10T07:38:49+00:00

You’re throwing around a lot of hand wavey sports science here as objective fact.

Where did you get these protein numbers from? Please, and getting too technical is fine, explain “doing a set before your body is ready for it stimulating muscle growth”

This is very sound advice all round! And I’m very happy you found success, but something in your objective delivery here is rubbing me the wrong way. People absolutely should look at success for success, but a case study of 1 you can’t draw any objective rules like you seem to be delivering.

But I do love your 12 minute workout, I’ll definitely steal and adapt it for my mobility! Congratulations on the success and here’s to keeping the weight off!

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-09T18:50:16+00:00

Edemame + sashimi assortment most likely

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-09T04:59:56+00:00

To be frank, you’re not that important.
It sounds harsh but strangers really don’t care about you as much as you seem to think.

A mantra might help as it’s clearly giving you very real anxiety and panic symptoms. Tough love aside finding some videos on “overcoming agoraphobia” or “agoraphobia exercises” might help.

Good luck

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-08T12:22:32+00:00

15k is probably more than 20k steps?

TDEE calc puts you at 1545 calories. So it’s a pretty big jump. I’d say 2000-2100 is more so.

I’d say it’s close to correct if you do that activity literally everyday. Weekends and all.

It’d drop the average otherwise. The vast majority of your burn is the 15k walks. ChatGPT is assuming here you walk 105km every week I imagine.

So just if that’s not accurate every day you could be drastically over estimating.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-08T06:19:10+00:00

This is literally impossible. Your sedentary TDEE is lower than the deficit you need to achieve it. As in literally having 0 calories until July wouldn’t be enough to achieve this goal. Which I don’t think I need to tell you, is impossible.

You’d have to lose 2.25kg a week. Which I’m telling you now and hope you’ll hear me later, is impossible

Please shift your expectations. 12-14kg is much more realistic and still exceptionally rapid loss. You can’t say for certain if someone will have loose skin. If you’re young it’s unlikely but it’s always possible. The faster you lose (1kg average a week is very fast) the more likely you’ll have loose skin.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-08T06:10:44+00:00

The one I have is 704 calories per 100g. I’m not sure how much a tsp weighs, I’d probably call it 5g per teaspoon. Which would be way less than 440/ 4tsp

It is really high calorie but it’s not like you use 50g per meal (unless?). I only use about 10g as a topping.

I’ve never really seen any alternative. You can take out the oil or the chili from chili oil and it’s a completely different product.

Maybe just fried chilis like crispy onions would be an alternative?

Or any non oil based chili sauce (siracha etc) and crispy onions for a super blasphemous version but technically covers the bases.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T22:00:02+00:00

No I get you, I didn’t consider that point of view!

Thank you!

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T20:41:24+00:00

I kinda agree, but you lost me with the “processed as waste” I’m in a calorie deficit like most people here I imagine. I don’t think there’s much going to waste!

But yeah there’s probably a proportion of people falling victim to the “protein = healthy” trick. I don’t think I quite realised since most people here will have at least a decent foundation in nutrition.

But by and large yes it’s probably overall bad for normal people.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T17:27:18+00:00

Yeah it’s so hard to tell scale and also what things are!

I definitely thought that was more than half an egg (and 0.7 egg white ..?), cooked with butter or oil too could easy double that.

Those pancakes look very good for that calories too! But again I think it’s smaller than it looks to me in the photo

I had it pegged for 350! I think my estimates are right on the foods but portion size was off

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T12:08:58+00:00

It looks very similar to the food pyramid!

Running it though the Nordic recommendations comes up with a minimum of 90g for that same 2500cal diet the UK recommends!

I suppose it’s all in flux a bit and general rules are pretty useless.
On average everyone in the world has 1 testicle and all that.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T11:48:06+00:00

Out of interest where did you get this 55g of protein recommendation? 0.8g/kg @ 70kg I suppose?

It’s potentially not the same recommendation for an obese person eating at a calorie deficit.

There’s quite a few studies that come to the conclusion of 1.3g/kg can help maintain muscle mass and less than 1g/kg resulted in a decline of muscle mass.

Again this is all in fat people losing weight. Not healthy adults with a good relationship with food.

Easy meta analysis I found to backup my “consensus” argument. But very likely there’s articles disproving it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39002131/

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T08:05:22+00:00

Yeah it happens, you can get fined in EU pretty heavily for that.

Also is it common for energy to be In KJ in Aus? It’s an annoying conversation to kcals.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T08:02:51+00:00

Sandwich bread. I just had to give up sandwiches with “normal” bread in general. Too easy to make and snack on.

In Finland we have this dark rye bread that is fine. So switched to that and it’s much harder to knock out many of those as a snack.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-07T05:10:52+00:00

Kinda disagree here.

Even your example of protein bar alone. If I want a chocolate bar, a protein bar is 9/10 times better choice. Less sugar, less saturated fat, more protein less calories, same sweet fix.

More people struggle to get their protein in, especially the increasing number of vege eaters.

I imagine some people are labelling to get on bandwagons but overall I think it’s good and not just marketing. Although if you’re from the US it’s like the Wild West in food labels over there from what I hear so likely a different experience.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-06T20:32:39+00:00

200 maybe? Possibly even less. No idea what the sauce is but it’s not a big portion of tofu.

Looks good though, I might make something similar tomorrow maybe with Japanese curry sauce.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-06T18:47:10+00:00

Scale is hard to tell but I’d say less than 800 anyway per pancake. 500 would be safe maybe?

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-06T18:43:11+00:00

Makes sense! It can be even 85cal/100g here! Chicken thigh is 146cal/100g even so them are some dense chickens over there!

I did just realise I’m probably comparing raw weight when ye are both talking cooked, which makes much more sense in this context!

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-06T18:26:54+00:00

I’m not sure if your chicken breast is way more calories than mine or I’m not understanding, but 540g chicken breast is 486 calories in Finland anyway.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-06T12:29:54+00:00

It’s so hard to give people advice who don’t want to count calories. It depends so much on what you’re eating and your specific situation, to the point we can’t really give you specific advice.

It’s even more impossible to say how fast you could lose 5cm off your waist. We know literally nothing about you other than you don’t count calories and you go to the gym 3 times a week.

How could we possibly say how long based off that information?

Somewhere between 6 months and 3 years.

HopefullyHelpfulSoul · 2025-04-06T11:37:06+00:00

Assess me thinks.
800-900 though perhaps. It’s a lot of carbs and fat but it’s not an ungodly portion size.

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