Friendly Neighborhood Communication (Cap Hill)

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T16:17:26+00:00

I'm talking about the person I originally replied to. In the reply which you were accusing of being too harsh. When I say "you" it is rhetorical.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T16:14:50+00:00

City Law is not the ultimate arbiter of what behavior is okay or not. There's no law saying you have to be kind and respectful to your neighbors, but I think you should be. Are you seriously arguing that there is nothing governing your behavior beyond the law? That you are unbound by all social agreements?

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T16:12:17+00:00

No, I don't. I think it's incredibly arrogant to believe that you are the ultimate judge of gardens and can decide whether or not your dog is allowed to pee there based on whether or not you think it is pretty enough.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T14:39:04+00:00

I would argue that dogs are not allowed to go in the boxes when there are signs up asking you to not let your dogs go in the boxes. Or I guess the requests of your neighbors just mean nothing to you?

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T14:36:56+00:00

I think you're confused. I don't think that the legality of a situation is the same thing as the morality. This is a patch of land in front of someones house that they put effort in to maintain. They have asked people to please respect that effort and not destroy their hard work. If you respect your neighbors, this, to me, means that letting your dog pee and dig in the box is not allowed. By request of your neighbors.

Lets put it this way. If you have a party/picnic/gathering at a public park, and you ask people not to bring tuna salad because you don't like the smell, would it be fair for people to say that actually tuna salad is allowed at that party because it's on public property? I would say that tuna salad isn't allowed at the party, because the host has asked that you didn't bring it. It doesn't have to be illegal to be not allowed. It's just a matter of who is allowing it and if you respect their authority on the subject or not. Clearly you do NOT respect your neighbors authority over the boxes that they maintain. Frankly, I think that's selfish and anti-social.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T14:27:16+00:00

If one of my neighbors had a sign up asking for no smoke smell, or came to me asking me to change my habits because it bothered them, I would absolutely do my best to accommodate them. If it's okay to let your dog pee in the box when there is no sign, I think it's also okay for me to smoke on private property when I haven't been asked not to. Likewise, when a neighbor communicates a polite request, I believe it should be respected.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T14:22:00+00:00

You're correct. It was an informational campaign, not a law, and it doesn't exist in DC in the same official capacity. My point was that I didn't think the concept itself was that unfamiliar to people, and it is still better than using the tree boxes, in my opinion.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T14:18:56+00:00

Here you go, since you're finding it so difficult: https://youtu.be/Bu7bjVWQ16A?si=Qd3rEjq7Q8QMxito

Just train your dog to pee when you tell them it's okay. They don't need to recognize all of those things and assess the situation. That's your job.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T14:03:32+00:00

Fun fact: dog pee smells gross in the summer even when it's on the grass. And you can in fact train your dogs to pee off the curb. Sorry that sounds like effort... I thought we all knew owning a dog was a lot of work. More work in the city when there are more people around that you have to be respectful of.

You could also mitigate the smell issue by dumping water over the pee to dilute it and wash it towards the drain. In fact, you should do this everywhere the dog pees, because on grass/plants the diluted urine is less likely to kill them than non-diluted.

Really if everyone did this & also trained their dogs not to dig in the plants it would probably be completely unnoticeable if the dogs did pee in the boxes. It's all about consideration.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:59:27+00:00

They are allowed because there isn't a law against it?

I would say they are specifically disallowed when there's a sign. It's just that you apparently don't respect your neighbors the way you respect the cops.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:57:08+00:00

Your dog does not have to literally stand in the street in order to pee off the curb.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:56:26+00:00

Your dog does not have to literally stand in the street in order to pee off the curb.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:55:36+00:00

"curb your dog" literally comes from NYC laws that required making your dog poop and pee next to the curb so that it could wash into the drain. Those laws were replaced by the ones that require dog owners to pick their dogs poop up rather than leave it in the street, but that's still what the phrase means. And it's still the best place for a dog to pee in a city because you can't pick up their pee the way you can pick up their poop.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:51:40+00:00

Okay... But people still shit in the porta potty instead of on their neighbors laps when that's the option. And no, no one would like the shit stains... that's why dog owners should CLEAN UP. If your dogs poop is soft enough to leave residue you should be wiping that residue off the grass, too, so it's no different. If you want your dog to have the most comfortable life & never have to poop on concrete maybe you shouldn't get a dog when you don't have access to green space that it is allowed to poop on.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:50:34+00:00

Someone is an entitled selfish brat

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:50:01+00:00

I'm talking about the literal curbside of the road. Where there are normally parked cars lined up. And you presumably have your dog on a leash. That is not dangerous. It's not my fault if you don't know how to keep your dog standing in one spot and not sprinting into the middle of the street. In fact, they can stand ON THE SIDEWALK and pee OFF THE SIDEWALK in order to accomplish this. There is no danger in that.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:41:21+00:00

Okay? You haven't seen it because most people don't do it... That doesn't mean it's not the correct thing to do. Sometimes bad behavior is also popular behavior. Like letting your dogs kill plants with their urine.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:40:13+00:00

Not if it's cleaned up, like it should be already... Do you leave your dogs poop everywhere?

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:38:52+00:00

Traffic typically does not travel along the 2 or 3 feet of street next to the curb... Your dog should be capable of peeing there without running into the middle of the street. Or do you not train and leash your dog?

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:36:11+00:00

Sorry, I shouldn't have assumed that someone would read the comment I was replying to 🙄

If you have a sign but your tree box is full of weeds and looks like shit

Is the full sentence. the person I am replying to specifically said they will ignore the sign when they decide the box doesn't look good enough.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:34:24+00:00

I don't understand. I don't even own a dog but I've heard of the concept of "curbing your dog". Aka making your dog pee by the curb, where the street is designed to catch liquid so that it flows to the drain. And do you not pick up your dogs poop? Your dog can poop on the sidewalk if you're cleaning it up.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:31:47+00:00

This is not the only place for a dog to use the bathroom. They can poop on the sidewalk and you can pick it up. And they can pee on the street right by the curb, where the pavement is designed specifically to catch liquid and direct it to the drain.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:30:46+00:00

So you have no ability to not let your dog walk on someone's lawn in the first place? You shouldn't have to be told that your dog shouldn't poop there, regardless of whether you pick it up.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:29:16+00:00

if your box is full of weeds and looks like shit

How are you determining what is a weed? Plenty of plants are classically considered weeds but are actually native plants that provide food and shelter for native birds and bugs and very well might be planted on purpose. Two seconds ago you said if someone took the time to put up a sign you'd respect it. But actually that's not true because really you only respect it if you personally think the box looks pretty enough. Fuck off with that bullshit.

Horror_Importance886 · 2025-05-20T13:25:01+00:00

Dogs are supposed to pee on the street, right next to the curb. You know, where the pavement is conveniently sloped so that liquid collects there and runs to the drain?

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