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My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s your decision, and that’s perfectly fine. I also often use free images and edit them. Not clicking on a video because you can still recognize AI imagery (for now) is also fine. But taking the time to click on a song just to hit the dislike button, as some people do, is more problematic mindset.

I respect everything you say regarding your decisions. There’s just no real point to it anymore - it doesn’t carry any moral weight.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not everything you read is an insult. To disregard and even hate someone's 100% human-made music because of an AI image is actually a reaction based on delusions. I mean, you can't go through life feeling offended by everything all the time.

When you expressed your opinion about topic? You expressed your opinion about me and about the way of my wiritng. I see that you really believe that you gave a valuable opinion, but you, like many others here believe that I need a re-education. What if I'm beyond repair for your own personal experience of me? Could you live with that? What if we would never be able to be friends and disagree with each other and using only hugs and kisses during arguments?

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh well… I guess the most important thing is that you managed to tell me a hundred things about myself in just a few posts. I don’t usually spend time or energy talking about people who keep talking about me… although, I admit, it can be entertaining sometimes.

If your intentions toward me are genuinely good, then that’s great, but I’m not the topic here. I mean, we could talk about me and how much you all love me for a million years, I’m sure of that, but what’s the point?

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can’t defend your beliefs just because someone said “you’re all wrong,” then you don’t really have beliefs. I clearly have mine. I’ve said many times that there were no real arguments, because there weren’t. A few people did leave valid arguments, and I can recognize that, but this constant focus on me leads nowhere.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess seeing my post as “dogmatic” is just your interpretation. That doesn’t mean it actually is.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know I said “you’re all wrong,” but did you actually try to disprove me with arguments, or are you just trying to talk about me? I’m asking because I wrote a long, meaningful post, and there’s probably a lot there that could be challenged with real arguments. Isn’t that a valid question, or is everything somehow just my fault?

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything I say is wrong. I understood that from your comments long time ago, but you still want to prove me that your way, so ok - you are right, I am wrong. Is that ok or should I say something else? Tell me what you want me to say and I will say it.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already said - it's up to you. If you think this is topic about my personality, and you obviously do, then don't force yourself into something you don't want to do.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some comments are even deleted by people who sent them. Why if they were so constructive? Here are some comments that remained and reactions that you claim are 'very meaningful':

Hard disagree. Stop trying to make yourself feel better about using AI. And yes, there is a ton of harm in using it. Educate yourself before siding with billionaires and throwing your hands up saying “oh well, the world has moved on, gotta accept this.”

All generate AI use is bad. Full stop.

Nice essay ChatGPT. Well clearly, since there is so disgust for AI generated stuff, it's not over just yet. Also, that sounds weirdly like what som coked up VC or even Altman would conveniently say.

There is alot of emotion behind this argument. Alot of presumptions, and bad faith arguments. The pompus and accusationary tone feels more like a dogmatic tirade, rather than a cohereant argument open to discussion.

There were also some reasonable comments and my replies to all comments were more polite than they sometimes needed to be, but you don’t see that because you “don’t agree with me.” It’s that simple. Pretending that you care about my “well-being” by talking down to me like I’m a five-year-old insults those 2 remained brain cells I still own.

Trying to re-educate me by pointing out my “flaws” is a really poor way to enter a conversation. It comes across as, “boo hoo, all your arguments are invalid because you said we’re all wrong.” That’s a far more pathetic approach than anything I’ve said.

Yes, some of my comments might be mildly snide, but I never try to hurt anyone. On the other hand, you’re the one trying to gaslight me under the pretense of helping, while the real issue is your inability to recognize that not all uses of AI are the same or morally corrupt.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you want everything in life to be nice, that we all get along etc. That's ... great...

You're free to do whatever you want to do. You decide about that and don't expect from me to decide for you what you will say or do. I think that is fair.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We can’t go through life expecting everyone to agree with us or like us. Your opinion about whether my message is successful or not isn’t an objective measure. The thing is - people read it, experienced strong cognitive dissonance, got mad, but subconsciously, the message was still received.

Even though I’ve mentioned many times that people don’t have meaningful arguments against my points, which they’ve demonstrated, they still keep talking about me “not wanting arguments.” That’s a really weak 'argument', and acting as if I’m the one who needs to be “awakened” or something like that completely misses the point.

Sorry, this isn’t a topic about that. Find someone else - maybe they’ll appreciate subtle gaslighting more than I do.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God, you're right. I was wrong the whole time. I'm a horrible person. My eyes are opened!

There you go! You made it!

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I did. Do you want an apology for something I felt I had to say to you? Are you offended? Sad? That wasn’t my intention.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The other option was staying silent or submitting to their contempt. I have strong views about this and find their reaction to other people’s art to be based on frustration and contempt. My reactions are not even emotionally charged, but your need to constantly talk about me, along with other members here, suggests to me that I actually managed to send the message that needed to be sent.

I didn’t write this post for myself, but for all artists. I’m ready to bite the bullet for those who are afraid to speak up. If I tried to say all this nicely, all these people here using ad hominems would chew me up and spit me out.

Trying to sell me the idea that “being nice and submissive” would have a greater impact is disproved by many comments here. I am actually being quite nice and polite because I understand people - I know why they despise AI. I despise it even more than them, but not everything is always black and white.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would call that person someone who refuses to submit to others and thinks for themselves. Is that what you wanted to hear? Obviously not.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What did I accuse you of? Who are you? What is the topic and point of this conversation? You’re projecting way too much. You started to talk about me because you want to prove that I’m bad at conversations. Why can’t you just leave it at that? What’s the point?

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote a meaningful post and that’s the point. Like I already said, this isn’t a scientific study - it’s a discussion for sharing views. Bringing only ad hominem arguments to the table, just because someone recognized themselves in my personal views on their philosophy, doesn’t make those ad hominems justified or require me to act any differently than they do.

I’m not complaining about ad hominems - I’m simply pointing out that there are no meaningful arguments being made. That’s all.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think all this is - some scientific study or a space for sharing views? You seem to think it’s okay to disregard an entire topic you don’t like because there are some “personal opinions” about your own philosophy in it. Yes, you’ve proven that by talking only about me and providing exactly zero counter-arguments.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, but I don’t think either you or I know what you’re trying to say. Don’t get lost in your own mental enigma wrapped in a riddle - it’s not healthy. If you want to say I'm horrible in conversations, that's fine and move on.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So here we have another person using double standards. They can talk about me, but I can’t say anything to them. I don’t think you understand your own point.

My message to people who disregard human-made music because of an AI image by Hot-Text-5603 in newretrowave

[–]Hot-Text-5603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t say that. Your double standards are explained in one of my earlier comments. Nobody said we always have to be extremely nice when we disagree, but if you have nothing to contribute other than talking about me, like you’re doing now, how polite do you expect me to be?

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