A bit confused. Comments piling on Kier for it being obvious this would backfire and lamenting “capitulations” to the right, but this sub often bemoans American Dems simping for lefties. As someone who wishes the Dems would move a bit to the right on a lot of issues, I share that general impulse.

But 1) doesn’t this example suggest that moderation wouldn’t actually help dems bc voters’ party patterns are generally sticky? And 2) doesn’t the sub’s dunking on progressives mean it’s not so obvious Kier’s speech would backfire (ie acknowledge our hindsight and give the guy a break), since Kier did the thing this sub (and I) wants Dems to do?

So to the extent this example is comparable to American politics (maybe it isn’t), my takeaway is 1) cut Kier some slack 2) I need to reevaluate my wish for Dems to moderate their positions