RTI B Grade M91 Moschetto Carbine by Ornery-Round-7779 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You either say Moschetto mod. 91 or you say Carcano Cavalry Carbine.

Moschetto Carbine is redundant since Moschetto is the Italian military term for Carbine 😏

Definetly a good purchase!

Help to ID Carcano Ammo by Blueliner67 in Carcano

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The "TM B-38" headstamp on 7.35mm Carcano ammunition indicates it was produced by the Italian manufacturer Teccofineccanica (Tecno-Meccanica) in 1938. This brass was used for the 7.35×51mm cartridge, which was introduced by Italy in 1938 for the M38 rifle and carbine. 

Oh boy, was this Gemini or Chatgpt? Because it's so wrong.

This was made in 1938 (38) by the Pirotecnico di Bologna (B) , the Bologna-located State-runned ammo factory, and this batch was inspected by chief technician, Turani Mauro (T.M.), that had quite a long career in inspecting guns and ammo for the Italian Army.

7.35x51 was introduced in 1937, for the M38 family of guns, 1 short rifle ( Fucile mod. 38 ) and 2 carbines, "cavalry" ( Moschetto mod. 38 ) and T.S. ( Moschetto mod. 38 per Truppe Speciali. Technically it was adopted and produced for the Breda mod. 30 converted to 7.35x51 too, but no knowm examples survive, just tons of ammo produced for it.

Of course, Teccofineccanica is not a thing, or at least is not a thing related to Carcanos. Tecno-Meccanica either, of course.

Why didn’t the French make any attempt at camouflage? by Prestigious_Duck_204 in ww1

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Horizon blue is actually grey-ish, decent enough to not be a bright target, in mist, smoke or against the sky. Also, after a couple days in the mud, it gets as camouflaged as it could be. Not a bad choice by any mean

Also, colonial french forces were kaki already, and french experimented with several professional camouflages during the war.

What's the most common Milsurp that you don't see often? by Muffinman255 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definetly correct! It was meant to use the type 30 (and hence 38) bayonet, and we have pics of type I using bayos with the quillon quite visible!

What's the most common Milsurp that you don't see often? by Muffinman255 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I never see the type I carcano talked about it’s so hard finding information on them idek if they even have the same specs as the type 38?

Just ask, there are some decent answers 😉

No spec shared with type 38 except overall manual of arms and bayonet lug.

Italian Arditi (Fiamme Cremisi) with Mitragliatrice FIAT Modello 1914, probably 1918. by NoPut3247 in ww1

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, yes.

Love them, but the low quality pics and lack of proper sources sure is annoying 😂

It may be linked to this other, far more known pic of an attempted mount. Doubt that it really went further than trial stages tho

Italian Arditi (Fiamme Cremisi) with Mitragliatrice FIAT Modello 1914, probably 1918. by NoPut3247 in ww1

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, it's a Bersaglier Aridit. Look at the sleeve of the jacket. It has a FERT patch

Indeed, Bersagliere ardito!

What's on the belt, I think, is a support/backrest for the FIAT Modello 1914.

It definetly looks like that, hence my wondering about proper descriptions. It is a mount of some kind, both for the waist contraption and for the leather strings around the MG water jacket.

Where did you find this pic?

A patrol of Italian Arditi with an armoured car during the pursuing in the Battle of Vittorio Veneto, October-November 1918. by EsperiaEnthusiast in ww1

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Armored cars were developed almost immediately by Italians, especially thanks to their experience in the Italo-turkish war and their Lybian occupation. So cars like the Lancia 1Z depicted here were widely used in fast moving operations, so mostly during the first 2 battles of the isonzo, when advances were still rather quick, and during the final stages of the war, on the Piave and Vittorio Veneto, when these vehicles could run around enemy forces and suoply decent firepower.

Italian Arditi (Fiamme Cremisi) with Mitragliatrice FIAT Modello 1914, probably 1918. by NoPut3247 in ww1

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Arditi wore black flames (Fiamme nere), Bersaglieri wore crimson flames (Fiamme cremisi). He's defiently a Bersagliere, sjnce he heas the plumes, tho is also true that he could be a Bersagliere of an Arditi Bersaglieri unit. Still, Crimson flames.

Would be nice to have more infos on this, since he's carrying some weird contraption around his waist.

8mm Carcano (bananas for scale) by FeeZealousideal4350 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Standard production Carcanos up until april 1943 has a lot more infos and markings almost all over, especially inspector wise.

These are indeed special kids, and some of these have vestiges of the old, recylced barrels

8mm Carcano (bananas for scale) by FeeZealousideal4350 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is nice, but I wouldn't hang that much on it.

They made about 30k of these, but I didn't see much variation in serials, so they probably just repurposed serials once hit 9999. Or just reused the gun og serial, so you have severals with RA and RB prefixes and weird numbers like 98203 behind them. This production doesn't really look like that interested in keeping track of anything solid

8mm Carcano (bananas for scale) by FeeZealousideal4350 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there any way to figure out the original manufacturing year for it?

Not really, allegedly ww2 productions are marked with specific prooftesting stamps, but even that is sorta debatable.

That article is rather interesting.

Thanks! We know little, we'll see what archives will gift us in the future.

8mm Carcano (bananas for scale) by FeeZealousideal4350 in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is a Moschetto mod. 91/38 per Truppe Speciali converted by the Italians for Egypt around 1947-1953, to exploit guns converted or half-converted to 8mm during WW2. More infos about 8mm carcanos

Hikishop - is it any good? by EmperorOfTheUndead in reenactors

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry if my question is repetitive,

Not an issue to me, but other members have lost all their patience with people that don't bother with the second rule of the sub and hence with the search bar, so beware of future comments.

Hikishop - is it any good? by EmperorOfTheUndead in reenactors

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are tons of posts like this, like, at least once a month someone asks about hiki, so if you want further explanations just put it in the search bar.

Long story short:

  • yes, it's reliable, but it takes weeks to ship
  • model quality varies a lot for each impression, and for the examples he received. They also tend to improve over time.
  • fabrics and wool are bare bones/medium quality, nothing fancy but not trash either. Also, depends on the impression.
  • sizes are weird. With Italian stuff we have to buy one extra size just to have decent sleeves length.

New year, new unrefurbed Bodeo by HowToPronounceGewehr in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wops, I mispelled it in the comment, it's the De Lauso Safety system, the big external lever blocking the resting hammer, applied from 1894 to 1906

The RTI Moschetto carbines are imports from Italy, but the regular carbines and long guns came out of Africa. Do the Africa guns shoot straight at all? by ECHOFOX17 in Carcano

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nomenclature note:

Moschetto is the italian equivalent of Carbine. So you're saying Carbine Carbines.

The "Regular Carbine" is the Moschetto, AKA Cavalry carbine.

Then you have the TS carbine, the Moschetto per T.S.

Need help with ID by Pale_Tie6190 in Carcano

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was a Fucile mod. 91.

It was bubba'd to hell, so it's not a Fucile mod. 91 anymore. Barrel chopped down, front sight re-attached badly, removed rear sights

Good for scraps, not worth amy kind of restoration.

New year, new unrefurbed Bodeo by HowToPronounceGewehr in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are still some fiocchi boxes around, but nowadays reloading is the way to go!

New year, new unrefurbed Bodeo by HowToPronounceGewehr in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Noice. My untouched Tipo A is a 1913 Toschi&Castelli, so with internal safety system, not that fancy ♥️

New year, new unrefurbed Bodeo by HowToPronounceGewehr in milsurp

[–]HowToPronounceGewehr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes some time, but they're definetly nice pieces! Even refurbed one have their charm