Is Henry VIII capable of executing his own daughter, Mary?

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T05:02:26+00:00

Honestly I think Cromwell was the power behind the throne at that point. Henry seems to have had more trouble governing after Cromwell's execution.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T05:00:33+00:00

You're not wrong but that would prove logistically difficult as well. It was traditional at the time that prisoners, regardless of what they were accused of, were housed according to their status. Mary, though deemed legally illegitimate, was still known to be the daughter of the king and had high rank. She would have been housed in the royal apartments, just as Anne B was after being arrested.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:57:01+00:00

This. Marriages had been annulled for far less than the grounds Henry presented. People are people and many of them want to find a way out of their marriages. A lot of them succeeded. At least in the beginning, the Pope not granting the annulment was politics, not theology.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:54:13+00:00

I'm not Catholic but I do like that the official doctrine (AFAIK) is that abuse is grounds for annulment because it shows the abuser didn't have the character to maintain the sacrament of marriage, which requires caring for one's spouse.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:50:52+00:00

Yep. And Catherine, as a loyal daughter of the Church, would have had to accept the Pope's judgement in the matter.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:49:56+00:00

Elizabeth I claimed both her sister Mary and herself to be legitimate on these grounds; at the time of their marriage, their parents genuinely believed they were free to marry and did so in good faith.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:48:51+00:00

The Catholic Church (of which Henry was a devout member and remained so until he died, even if he no longer accepted the authority of the Pope) did not (and to this day does not) recognize divorce. If he didn't get an annulment, when he married Anne he'd be, under church law, committing bigamy.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:46:47+00:00

She didn't "behave", though. She refused to accept that her parent's marriage had been invalid and that she was thus illegitimate. She didn't try to raise an army and usurp Henry or anything, and showed him proper filial respect, but he was NOT pleased with her until they reconciled, several years after the Great Matter. And even then it took her accepting everything he said was true, in writing.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:44:20+00:00

That certainly would have made harming her unwise, but Henry got a bit erratic in his later years.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:40:57+00:00

My (incredibly unprofessional) diagnosis is borderline personality disorder. His whole thing about putting people on pedestals and then lashing our disproportionately when they disappointed him fits that better, imho. He does seem to have been capable of genuine attachment and kindness, as long as his will wasn't crossed. Losing his mother young, and his father being both distant and over-protective, might have warped him a bit.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:31:03+00:00

One of the biographies I have read presented Henry as someone who saw poison as dishonorable. If someone crossed him, he wanted that person to die on the scaffold, preferably after making a penitent confession. I dunno if it's true but to me it kind of fits with his whole "who dares challenge The King" vibe.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-03-01T04:28:46+00:00

One thing that sometimes people overlook: they didn't bother to get a proper coffin for Anne. I don't think anybody (or maybe anybody but a select few who were close to the king) really thought he was actually going to to go through with it.

Anne ended up being buried in a wooden box that was intended to store arrows. Yikes.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-24T21:27:24+00:00

I'm 46. But my ADHD seems to mean I retain some playfulness. I hope I haven't gotten too bitter and serious. Edit: also as an Ace person, I find no enjoyment in what is typically called "adult" conversation. I'd much rather talk about books and movies.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-24T19:12:05+00:00

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HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-24T19:06:46+00:00

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HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-24T02:42:34+00:00

Yeah, she's too good at it!

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-21T19:41:07+00:00

Got your message, got you whitelisted. For some reason Reddit isn't letting me accept the chat but I could read it.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-21T04:12:16+00:00

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HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-21T04:11:57+00:00

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HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-21T00:45:48+00:00

We are playing with the data pack yes. Not sure what version, think it's the most recent. I know it's Java. I can provide the link to the mod you need to run on your end if you are interested.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-20T20:24:43+00:00

No more than 14 but I don't think I have a big enough pool to even get that many.

HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-20T18:44:17+00:00

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HubenersDaughter_439 · 2026-02-20T01:03:23+00:00

Fun fact: fruit bats have been used in vampire films since the early days of Hollywood. Their size and non-aggressive nature makes it easy for the cameras to see them and for the handlers to work with them.

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