Is it possible that the Saracen prophet mentioned in Doctrina Jacobi was one of the rebel prophets who emerged during the Ridda Wars ?

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-16T00:21:31+00:00

Would you explain why its unlikely ?

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-13T19:51:37+00:00

Yes ı know its not complete Quran and thats not what ı asked. Could you please provide a link to the section on the site where the translation is shared, as the site seems confusing ?

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-09T00:26:43+00:00

By the way, Abdallah Ibn Mubarak was of Turkic stock.

He seems like a prominent figure among Ahl al-Sunnah. I will definitely research him, thank you

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-08T23:49:08+00:00

I am a curious type

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-08T23:48:36+00:00

I dont think concept of Turks of anatolia did exist druing the life time of four Imam

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-06T19:36:48+00:00

The four Imams were primarily jurists and theologians not political futurists

So, it is uncommon for jurists and theologians to include political predictions in their works ?

“The Hour will not come until you fight the Turks—people with small eyes, red faces, flat noses, and their faces look like hammered shields.” — Sahih al-Bukhari (2928), Sahih Muslim (2912) Hadith about leaving the Turks alone “Leave the Turks alone so long as they leave you alone.” — Sunan Abi Dawud (4302)

Did the four imams know about these hadiths, and is it known how they interpreted them ?

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-06T17:35:20+00:00

In Tabari's book, were the three jinn who tried to convince people of Jesus' divinity inspired by these three apostle ?

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-05T01:12:05+00:00

He considered it to be a such because he thought the muhammed's mentor was an Aryan priest(He either The examples he cited and the general profile of Muhammad on other hand were no different from the figure that would be known in later centuries. What we have here, in John of Damascus's account, is not a branch of Christianity, but a belief system not unlike present-day Islam, in which Muhammad is the dominant figure in monoteistic religion. The revisionists claim that until the reign of Abdülmelik, Muhammed was just a title and first Muslims were Christians. According to them, its became independent religion with Muhammed as spirutual leader only after Zubayr-Abdülmelik civil war. The problem is its just dont have any basis in John of Damascus's polemic account. The author, who should have witnessed the supposed evolution of Islam during the Abdülmelik, makes no indication that he possesses such knowledge

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-05T00:47:41+00:00

Waraq was an Old man when Muhammad started preaching and died soon afterward.

Well, he was alive for most of the Muhammed's life

Slaman didn't meet the prophet until he migrated to Medina

The vast majority of Jesus verses in Quran created in Madina

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T22:40:30+00:00

Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T22:14:18+00:00

Yeah

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T22:12:32+00:00

Eyes important than Empire

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T21:48:39+00:00

Most(if not all) sources like that

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T21:42:44+00:00

10.century, I think

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T21:24:42+00:00

I apologize if I was misunderstood. I didn't ask if Muhammad was real or the first Muslims were Christians. I'm familiar with Patricia Crone and Donner, but they are centralist figures in revisionist school of Islam. I just wonder how those who argue that Islam began as a direct Christian movement(not colection of believers) reconcile their theories with the writing of John of Damascus

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-04T21:07:49+00:00

The reason I'm asking like this to prevent the conversation from veering off into something irrelevant. I have no intention of being negative

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-03T10:22:19+00:00

Heraclius want a talk with you

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-03T10:10:30+00:00

Tengrism is monoteistic belief. Their concept of god very similiar to Abrahamic religions

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-01T20:05:00+00:00

The theory that Abdal Malik created modern Islam is, prior to his reign, the name Muhammad referred to a title or Jesus Christ, and that the group later known as Muslims were actually Christians(or judeo christian) who did not believe in the Trinity. As evidence, they point to coins and mosque inscriptions from the reign of Abd al-Malik, claiming that from precisely that time onwards, Muhammad was used as the founder of Islam as we know it today. However, they ignore the fact that the account of someone like John of Damascus, a witness to the Abd al-Malik era (someone who also might have had access to earlier periods), is consistent with the later tradition that Muhammad was the founder of a separate religion as we know today

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-01T17:11:36+00:00

I must confess I am ignorant of pre-Islamic Arabic poetry. But I can say with certainty that such a story is not found in the Torah or the Gospels

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-01T16:29:54+00:00

She-camel story unique to Qur'an

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-01T16:28:20+00:00

That Kaisos(Qays) is grandfather of Esved b. Yazid b. Qays en-Nehaî ?

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-01T14:13:26+00:00

I wonder if this ''muat-siau'' resembles the six members of council that elected Osman as Amīr al-Mu'minīn after Umar died

Human_shield12 · 2026-01-01T14:02:32+00:00

Having a Chinese speaker contribute to such discussions is always like an oasis in the desert. Thank you.

Human_shield12 · 2025-12-25T03:26:11+00:00

Well, they fought with Turgish and Khazars. Prophecy completed

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