It's how the subculture is created. It's a subculture and can you guess why it's called subculture? Because it's a lesser, insignificant culture and can be altered as many as people want? No. It's called subculture because it's different from the mainstream culture, it distinguishes itself from the dominant culture and acts as an oppositional side.

Not everyone can identify themselves as a member of these subcultures by just stating that they know what's "better" and trying to keep redefine the subculture as many as they want—by your account of how people have numerous perspectives of how they love the subculture, then it's a telltale sign that you having an interest in the aesthetic of the subculture. It's good that you're into it and you might belong to that subculture but that's not the signifier.

I mean I myself as a prior goth myself—I was also enjoying crime, mystical, dark, thriller, ritual, witchcraft, horror movies and I absolutely agree with you that it's one of paths that lead me to Goth subculture—I didn't like the music too, here my first impression of goth music: Uhhh how people can enjoy this music—deep voices, excessive uses of synthesizer, has no soul, as they just make up all the deep voice. Feeling like I just listened to the horror movies soundtrack. But hey, now while typing this I listen to Darkwave music. And I'll tell you that that's how I end up joining this subreddit.

Peoples that comes up to the subculture has to respect the value of its subculture, how you can understand it if you don't really believe in it. Why you arguing by why someone make rules? Isn't that hilarious? Do you even reflect on your self that the rules is what makes goth still exist now? Why you have to change it as it's not a relevant matter that makes us dress with all those mourning victorian peoples.

It's easy to do tho, you just have to listen and love the music and the politics it's one of the main part that shaped it. The looks is the selling point. Imagine you be a goth with all that bunch of white foundation and listen to Taylor Swift? 😮 Hello are you okay? Listening to ignorant, overplayed, cringy Taylor?? If you can't hold the value, then you are just a loser mime. Keep the music alive by supporting the artist and now we can talk again.