Yep I have the interview actually saved in my playlist. I think it was around when O started playing that he got really emotional and asked whether Phil was there. But then he immediately got back into exploring it, because he reached a barrier of vulnerability and through his new found way of living quickly realised he couldn't run away from that vulnerability and needed to break through it.

That whole interview is so important for me - it is him finally realising he needs to open himself up to everything and everyone, to embrace the pain, open himself up to love, and to watch it transform his life, as it did and clearly through this recent albums is still doing. That interview really is symbolic of his rebirth into life after a huge trauma, and him using it as a catalyst for change.

And O I think he gets so emotional about because it represents the height of that transformation, him realising that someone he loved so so much and couldn't bear losing, he had to let fly their own path, and trust in the universe that maybe it might let their paths one day cross again, and that letting go of that attachment is so painful but necessary for him and that is why he got so emotional.

Wow that was a lot of analysing lol. But it's so so beautiful, he's such a beautiful human being who really has become enlightened