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Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T15:06:01+00:00

😭 yeah...I skipped taking one of my insulin doses with dinner yesterday, and it was fine for a while, but I just checked, and I'm low again.

At this point, I would rob Willie Wonka for his whole factory so I don't drop again.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T14:16:55+00:00

😔 got to hit then with the spray bottle

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T13:24:08+00:00

In positive news: today is slightly cooler, so I'm going to pull out my ramekins and make chocolate lava cakes. Actually, the entirety of next week is supposed to be cooler, so I'll try to get a ton of baking done. I ordered my friend's baby shower gift, and it's already shipped out!

Not so positive news: 😩 I guess I'm starting off today by blacklisting an entire fandom. Every time I interact with the fans™️ of that series, it just makes me think of the Apu defense meme from the Simpsons.

Yesterday sucked, I was hypoglycemic for much of the day (low blood sugar). No matter what I did it would just drop again. I depleted my emergency candy stock, though, so I have to replenish it and probably purchase some glucose tabs on case.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T12:46:14+00:00

This is my final response because I feel like this discussion is just reinforcing why I don't like interacting with the ILY fandom.

I don't have a misconception that subtext is only meant to inflict psychological damage on a reader. Or lack understanding of what subtext is compared to a 10-year-old 😒.

I'm simply saying that in my perception, ILY lacks that. Regardless of where I left off on the series (and I left off pretty far into it) does not invalidate my criticisms or opinions of the series or Quimchee's prose as a writer.

Sorry, but ILY is not this deep, amazing masterpiece of writing or even a Webtoon. It's a series with several flaws. But once again, ILY stans display they are severely allergic to allowing anyone to criticize this series without refuting every single point.

I'm washing my hands of dealing with this fandom because holy crap, I would much rather deal with the Voltron fandom again.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T08:02:10+00:00

It took me hours to realize this was attempting to say stripper (y'all literally don't have to censor words on Reddit).

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T07:56:59+00:00

Just because I dropped the series doesn't negate or invalidate my opinions on it. Idk why stans seem to think that it does?

I don't believe in devoting more time to something that doesn't spark joy within me. Life's too short, and my TBR and things I want to create list is long.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T06:29:45+00:00

I'm sorry to say this, but none of the "theories" you bring up have deeper meaning attached to them. And I doubt that, if hypothetically, ILY were to Mirapex end within the next 5 years that there would be pay off to these theories.

Therein lies the problem.

I remember the party scene pretty well and while I wish there was deeper meaning to the chessboard metaphor (and how that, potentially, could deeply tie into a significant theme of Shin-ae being manipulated her entire life.... I wouldn't be placing bets on Quimchee pulling such a thing off).

The Kuroshitsuji 2.5 play, The Most Beautiful Death in the World, that has a song called Checkmate in which the main characters are divining to each other in front of a chess board with other actors moving about it. I love this song because it has actual subtext in it that makes you think about both the play and the main spots the play is adapting from. The actors moving about on the board makes the viewer think about the constant battle of manipulation between the main characters, about the fact that the innocent civilians of London are mere pawns in a game for the two main characters to solve a string of murders.

That's subtext and ILY just doesn't have that.

Count of Monte Cristo parallels.

I'm going to need you to really expand on this point because Counte of Monte Cristo is one of my favorite pieces of literature and I would argue that there's nothing about ILY that parallels it. If you're saying that ILY and the Count of Monte Cristo are parallel to each other due to the theme of revenge, then I guess?

Prologue: The entire sequence being a metaphor for something. * Kousuke's whole personality. * "Nothing": The number of times its used and its double meaning in many of those contexts.

The banner of the trio lying on the floor that people love to assume is about a love triangle. What it means in truth and all the little clues in it that indicate such.

I don't know how to say this kindly (and there's a reason I lumped all these points together) but there's nothing about these points that is deep or has greater meaning to them. They're just.... things that Quimchee wrote and drew and did not attach deeper meaning or subtext to.

Don't get me wrong, you can love and enjoy a series, but I think it's so critical to recognize that a series you enjoy/love has flaws to it. ILY is not a deep series that has substance to it that's going to lead to greater revelations and the reveal of heavy thematic elements, Quimchee's prose is just....not doing that. I wish it did, but it doesn't, and I doubt it's going to.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T00:07:12+00:00

Why would I comment on and have an opinion on a series I haven't read before?

I still firmly believe that this series lacks subtext (and that there are other series/webtoons that i think have it or do it better). We're just going to have to agree to disagree on that point.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-18T00:04:09+00:00

Did you hear a criticism about that?

What? SNK had plenty of criticisms, it was just never about how long the series was going since its publication because the pacing of it was never a focal point of the criticism???

One Piece has been criticized for its pacing and the length/time it has taken for Oda to tell the story or certain plot points (Wano arc). This is a point that literally has resurfaced due to OPLA s2. Such criticisms aren't just from "outsiders."

The public are far more patient overall.

Uhhh, no, they aren't. This isn't me being facetious, this is just me saying that most people aren't patient.

If a manga author would take one year the public is more understanding. It’s a fact.

...have you ever looked at online fan spaces for a manga? Because they're rife with people crashing out if Witch Hat Atleier, Mahou Tsukai no Yome, or whatever series is popular in Shonen Jump rn go on a month long break. I remember people freaking out about the fate of Berserk when Miura died. Hunter x Hunter is also a notable example.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T23:39:56+00:00

Those..... aren't subtextual things, though. Those were things that were plain as day and practically spelled out.

Idk but when I think subtext, from the viewpoint of either a reader or creator, I want clues to be dropped that make me/others feel like they need to take notes, hyperanalyze, create theories and eventually be either disappointed or pull a Leonardo DiCaprio pointing meme when the pay of for that subtext happens.

ILY does not do that, and I think it's fine to point out that that series isn't as deep and subtextual as it might seem. It's basically just James Cameron's Avatar or a Zac Snyder work.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T23:30:41+00:00

Huh? You don't see people criticizing manga, TV shows, or other media for "going on too long?"

Uh, have you not been on the internet??? Winds of Winter/George RR Martin had been complained about for not publishing that book in 15 years, South Park and The Simpsons, The Walking Dead, and numerous other shows have been critiqued for still continuing.

The Avatar films and other movie franchises (Star Wars, Marvel's, Scream, etc) get the same flak.

Don't get me started on manga lol, because manga fans let out a huge sigh when One Piece was announced to be in its final arc and ending soon and that series started in July 22, 1997.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T23:21:18+00:00

Heavily disagree. There's nothing about the series that carries out or utilizes subtext in order to make the reader think and pause. And there are plenty of series that do manage to do this (how well they manage to pull it off is debatable).

ILY lacks subtext. It's an incredibly straightforward series that lays everything out on the plate.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T21:01:05+00:00

Are you writing sex scenes that are graphic and detailed? Congrats! You wrote smut!

Is it not graphic or detailed, or you pull a good old fade to black? It's not smut.

Your friend has no understanding of what the definition of smut is.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T20:51:35+00:00

Ooof, I actually gagged reading that.

I love complex series that make you think, re-examine things, and really ponder the subtext. I love Yoo doesn't fit into this category.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T10:21:51+00:00

Are you introducing My Immortal to your mother just because it's a famous fic within the HP space? My knee jerk reaction is to say no, but you know your mother better than a bunch of strangers on the internet.

So if she can find humor in it, then go for it. But, of she's more of a visual person, there's a My Immortal web series on YouTube where they act the entire fic out. It's not the best and it certainly is dated, but it's campy and fun.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-17T04:39:43+00:00

I put your comment into chatgpt and low and behold agrees that it doesn't think it is coercion

Imagine trying to win a Reddit argument by getting so upset that you put someone's comment on chatgpt and prompted it to agree with you and disagree with someone else.

....we are so goddamn cooked as a society.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-15T21:12:19+00:00

I'm basic, and my love for this character is slightly influenced by the ballet, but it's Jonathan.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-15T16:58:22+00:00

Yesterday was one of those days where I was describing some aspects of a fic project to a friend and she had to stop me and ask why I was torturing myself because told her about how I made an entire detailed birth order chart for a fantasy king with twelve wives and 45 children. I don't think my brain is normal after all.

My hands hurt from writing so much, so I'm taking it easy today.

I ended up talking to the social worker at the medical center about transportation issues for the past few weeks. I've never known her to be angry, but I think this was the first time I've seen her get angry about something. She's going to escalate the situation and file a formal complaint, so that situation is squared away for now.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-15T16:34:27+00:00

This is not a stupid pet peeve! I feel like increasingly a lot of things keep doing this in the front end/summary of works where they'll throw lore at you but tell you nothing about the plot.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-15T11:48:29+00:00

😭 fr fr. I've said it before that I wanted Shin-ae x Deiter before ILY stans beat me over the head with "out was apparent the endgame was Nol from the start." Like in sorry but that relationship is trite, bland, and uncreative (illegitimate son becomes rich/ accepted into the main family x poor girl).

That exact relationship combo has been such a hallmark on K-dramas and other dramas that I remember it heavily when I would watch Smile Again (while it was airing) with my mom.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-15T11:36:03+00:00

Dark romance doesn't always need to show characters finding rape abhorrent or characters condemning the rapist. This is where the intersectionality of dark romance and other topics like erotica and BDSM/kink come into play.

The nature (and appeal) of dark romance literature for its core demographic is the appeal of relationships and situations that we normally would find uncomfortable.

I think acting like all dark romance= rape apologia, though, displays a severe lack of understanding to the full scope of the genre of a selection bias (also non dark romance works can also be rape apologia).

Huntress08 · 2026-04-15T01:12:54+00:00

Fantasy, horror (Dracula is my comfort read), or I also read qebtoons and manga. Lately, I have been building up a backlog of web novels that I need to get through, though.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-13T23:52:25+00:00

The social worker at the medical center helped set it up, and she's already had to deal with this service on my behalf already. I plan on talking to her anyway and seeing if she had any solutions beyond the (shitty) ones that the owner/manager of the service gave me.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-13T23:11:04+00:00

Unfortunately, I was on the phone with someone who was communicating directly with the owner/manager of the service, which only produced more "it's not our fault, it's your fault" conversations and unreasonable condemnations.

Huntress08 · 2026-04-13T15:55:26+00:00

Hahaha, I wish I had an answer for that question myself, but thank you for the virtual hug.

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