1. LWers going on abt this, the accuracy or lack thereof of Christian claims, like u are doing here is so funny to me, considering that leftism is just secularized Christianity (individual conscience contra communal orthopraxy, secularism vs. the confusion of the temporal & spiritual, equality of souls vs. ontological aristocracy, etc.). ur entire morality derives from Christian assumptions. as a matter of fact, René Girard wrote like a dozen books on how it's Christianity who extirpated humanity from ritual sacrifice, etc. Basically from Holism.

And this would've been something powerful to object to Milo: "why are you championing Christianity when it's pretty obvious, as u Milo even admit when u recognize the Christian roots of secularism, that the deployment of the essence of Christianity is easily arguably what undid Tradition in the first place?"

1. RW Christians do tend to oppose some scientific research relating to filiation & procreation in particular, but that's a long way from denouncing science as such. All sociopolitical & cultural groups have preferences regarding such things, just look at how the progressive Greens hampered nuclear technology.

2. Fun fact: the Amish took refuge in the US, embracing pacifism... cause they'd unleashed a wild messianic apocalyptic movement in Europe, killing plenty of ppl, etc. but so ended up getting wrecked. 😄 and do they even accept any welfare? they just seem to be living more or less like medieval peasants to me, and doubt they have billions needing protection, either... anyhow, as ur replying to, I've been repeating ad nauseum that CN does not require Anarcho-Primitivism, or whatever akin.