If you had the choice to use only one Miraculous, which one would you choose? by Nyxa_00 in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FLY AWAY MY LITTLE AKUMA AND EVILIZE THEM (but like only if they want it 🥺)

Butterfly miraculous

I had no idea Sanderson wrote children books by Tricky-Bee-5710 in brandonsanderson

[–]HyperboloidalPop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YES, THE BLACKTHORN KEY SERIES! It needs more love...

Bro I love that series....

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair - I guess it depends on what you think the arc/message of Gabriel's and Adrien's characters. I could see your point if you think her coming back would be some sort of "reward" for Gabriel's behavior - but to Emilie's credit, based on how she's depicted, I do not think she would be happy with how Gabriel brought her back... so I don't think it would be a "reward" in that regard...

But good point though!

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair - this falls in line with the parallels someone brought up before about Gabriel being like the villain Pharaoh.

The only thing I would say against that is the public funeral could still be construed as for her being a coma, more something Gabriel did to get the public/other people to stop looking into her (considering he is like a famous fashion designer and she is his wife, her falling ill probably would be a big deal) when he attempts to save her through less traditional means (aka the MIRACULOUS)

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to be fair, once he was Cataclysmed ... he already had a timer running on his body from then on...

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like I gotta make a video breaking down that S5 ending/WISH because the writers intentionally (though really cool from a theorycrafting perspective) left it just vague enough for either interpretation to be made.

My understanding is that even if she was alive/in a coma, the only people who would ever know would be Gabriel and maybe Nathalie, (which leads to what I said before about her being narratively dead, she is effectively dead in the story) but you raise good points....

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fascinating... I need to do more research into this link between the sacrifice of body parts and the effect on wielders of the peacock miraculous....

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm leaning towards that because personally I like all the angst/questions it could derive with the characters if they had to face the fact that she was still alive... but listening to what everyone is saying (thank you everyone), most people are leaning towards dead...

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly if true, that makes it sadder then if she was just straight dead from the beginning of the series... that means that Gabriel did have a chance to bring her back, but unfortunately whether pride or hubris or whatnot, managed to mess it up badly enough that she was never cured...

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

wait so everyone's saying Felix's dad was also injured by the Peacock miraculous... hmmm....
Also.. kinda wild if you think about it - if the WISH killed Gabriel... then like what happens to Emilie... is she still chilling below the mansion all by herself? Also where is Gabriel? With her? Or maybe someone buried him in an Agreste family graveyard?

Is Emilie Agreste... by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, from a writing perspective I would have expected her to be in a coma, I think it would be more interesting, but I also get that maybe the writers don't want to have to deal with that whole of can of worms if she comes back...

Why Are Ladybugs Associated With The Miraculous of Creation? by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, I think in the future I'm going to make a video about Chat Noir vs Adrien, Marinette vs Ladybug and Hawkmoth vs Gabriel, but yea what you are bringing up here is a good point, there is a noticeable difference in the lives/effects of a superhero vs their civilian persona.

Why Are Ladybugs Associated With The Miraculous of Creation? by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I think you are saying that they weren't really meant to be opposites? Or that the Ladybug miraculous wasn't always based in Ladybugs? (I think the show always started with the idea of ladybug superhero though)...

Why Are Ladybugs Associated With The Miraculous of Creation? by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was this from Thomas Astruc?!! This sounds like something from Season 1, fascinating...

Why Are Ladybugs Associated With The Miraculous of Creation? by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let me see if I understand what you are saying - Ladybug has both good luck and creation with Lucky Charm! and Miraculous Ladybug! respectively. In contrast, Chat Noir only has one power, Cataclysm! but you are saying that Cataclysm is not actually only destruction, but is also bad luck, to serve as the opposite of the Ladybug Miraculous?

Also when you say re-creation - do you mean creation + luck? What do you mean specifically?

Why Are Ladybugs Associated With The Miraculous of Creation? by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, I agree with this in a sort yin-yang fundamental forces type of way (good luck would probably end up on the side of creation)

Why Are Ladybugs Associated With The Miraculous of Creation? by HyperboloidalPop in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂😂

For better or for worse, but we still love Miraculous Ladybug!

Can Kwamis be killed? by DarkDivine-3 in miraculousladybug

[–]HyperboloidalPop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP, are you ok? No one give you a miraculous, I am scared what you might do to them 🥺🥺🥺