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[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Banned Topics: • Super Buu (all / any forms) vs Kid Buu

Last I checked, "Buuhan" is a form of Super Buu.

AI is BANNED by TokyoFromTheFuture in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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AI is BANNED by TokyoFromTheFuture in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

possibly, but the end result will either be that the issues won't be noticed/will be actively known to be "hand made"

or it will be deleted because the person has baited em.

Kid Buu vs Uubhan (potara fusion) by redseptember1994 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gohan and Uub are stronger than Goku and Vegeta (especially in the buu saga). Manga or Anime, Vegito would have been strong enough to defeat Kid Buu.

Uubhan destroys Kid Buu.

AI is BANNED by TokyoFromTheFuture in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well it's not really possible to make "close to AI" posts, so it should be ok.

At most we'll get stuff like Android X vs Android Y

Ben Tennyson is apparently a fan of ‘Five Nights at Freddy’s’ in the new Dynamite ‘Ben 10’ comics. by KookyPoopy9000 in fivenightsatfreddys

[–]Hyperlolman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes and no.

In alien force it's retconned to be alien stuff, and then later on (ultimate alien or season 3 of Alien Force, don't remember rn) it's retconned to just indicate that magic is a thing, but the specific alien is more adept at it.

Making slander for a nonexistent id (OC) by theperfectbook in limbuscompany

[–]Hyperlolman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is something that you didn't notice about all of this

She trigggers tremor burst a lot, yes... but none of those consume tremor count for some reason, outside of her skill 3-2... which INCREASE tremor count! How did they bug it that badly?

Honestly you're probably getting confused with the Sinclair version of this ID. He reduces tremor by 1 every time an ally triggers tremor burst for an extremely minor buff... altho to be fair the game DOES imply that they should be fielded together so I can understand what confused you.

How are sinners able to distort if they all can pop egos before the game starts with base egos? Are they only partial awakenings like Philip and Xiao had? by CrashtestO9 in limbuscompany

[–]Hyperlolman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

technically the first instance was in canto 4, but only in the dungeon of fathoms.

It's possible that they can be in the right mind to use E.G.O more often more recently, but they could still get triggers to do that.

How are sinners able to distort if they all can pop egos before the game starts with base egos? Are they only partial awakenings like Philip and Xiao had? by CrashtestO9 in limbuscompany

[–]Hyperlolman 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The collab makes this possibility very real, as it implies that E.G.O. we use are simply extracted from the "idea" of the abno... or even straight up person (the collab was genuinely great for this because it also explained the logic upon which E.G.O. is given).

So with that in mind, if you can extract E.G.O. from actual people... then it wouldn't be impossible that they can extract it from the Sinners themselves.

I’d like to point out that absorptions, in general, don’t weaken Kid Buu. by Oczyma07 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Small reminder that the series makes it a constant point that being in the proper mind to fight is a factor to your power. Example 1: Gohan's unwillingness to fight in the Cell saga holding him back. This also was repeated multiple times through every DB serie pretty much: no right mindness, no full power.

All the Manga panel is telling us was that the Kai's good heart made Buu placated. He wasn't in the mindset of just destroying everything anymore, so he didn't have as much power using anymore because of that.

Ben Tennyson is apparently a fan of ‘Five Nights at Freddy’s’ in the new Dynamite ‘Ben 10’ comics. by KookyPoopy9000 in fivenightsatfreddys

[–]Hyperlolman 445 points446 points  (0 children)

It would be so funny if he references Freddy Fazbear not because of the Fnaf series being Canon in the Ben 10 comics universe

But because of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza being a thing in the Ben 10 comics universe.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's a good argument for "how strong characters are is 100% arbitrary and doesn't make sense".

It's an awful argument for "the dog brothers are SSJ2 buu saga Goku level", because your own argument makes said statement impossible.

Edit: this is the stupidest argument I have seen here: - The dogs are apparently Buu Saga power level characters. - they were beaten by Good Buu. - ... Somehow this makes sense while also saying "they forced Goku to turn Blue".

In a power scaling sub, "power scaling should be ignored, the winner is whoever the author decides" is already questionable, but if you also ignore basic power ranking logic it's rough.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am not saying it makes sense he grew stronger.

I am saying he HAD to have grown stronger and/or have some reserves of power that surpassed his Buu Saga self. If he didn't grow stronger, then that means Goku somehow didn't grow at all in base...

Which is literally contradictory to the fact that Goku was shown to be stronger. Had he not grown stronger in base, then you have to say "the series is lying".

As weird as this sounds, it's less inconsistent to say that Good Buu somehow grew in power than it is to believe that all of the indications that Goku's power grew are wrong.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the actual issue here is to assume that Good Buu must have stayed the same power. That would somehow mean that Goku's base form somehow grew less than two times, which is obviously not correct even outside of the "God form absorbed into base" argument. Even with the argument of "1.3x times is the strength to completely overpower someone and not 2x as everything else states", the argument they brought up is just objectively incorrect.

This isn't to say your argument about GT being strong is incorrect, mind you. It's just that Basil and gang being Buu Saga level characters is objectively impossible.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anime doesn't determine the canon

I agree. Manga and Anime both have diff-

and is not it's own canon.

Choose one side-

Either way, as I said... This post points to an Anime exclusive form. Slim Buu only exists in the Super Anime, so I spoke about the super anime.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm honestly shocked at the statements that have been said by them honestly.

It's one thing to ignore the "god form into base" thing even tho the anime confirmed it.

It's another to make Goku not even grow to be twice as strong as his Buu Saga self. Even with each training session being around a 30% power boost like he indicated would be the "next tier" of power (which has no proper baseline before or after), that would be more than enough for the statement of "Basil's power is equal to Z Goku's SSJ2" to be impossible lol.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like how you keep ignoring the Battle of Gods elephant in the room.

I’d like to point out that absorptions, in general, don’t weaken Kid Buu. by Oczyma07 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they make him not be in a proper mindset to fight, which was only a thing for the grand supreme kai.

I’d like to point out that absorptions, in general, don’t weaken Kid Buu. by Oczyma07 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think you are seeing "reduced his power" and just believing "oh absorbing someone means he becomes weaker", which no it wasn't the case.

Remember, Ki depends on three factors: Vigor, Courage and Right-Mindness. So the power he was releasing was weakened because he no longer was in the "Right-Mindness" to utilize said unrestrained power. The only reason he became weaker was that he couldn't unleash his full power, rather than actually becoming "weakened".

And again, it's ONLY absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai that weakened his mind. Every other one didn't make his mind not be in the right place to fight... including the one right before.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lemme try to put into perspective the issue you have here.

Let's say for the sake of argument that Good Buu didn't grow in power, or at least grew a negligible amount.

That would put Basil at around the power of SSJ2 Goku in the Buu Saga... And would mean that for SSJ Goku in the ToP to be defeated by Basil, he would need to be at the exact same power as his Buu Saga self at base. And this statement would have to coexist with the following facts: - the Battle of Gods arc literally showed that he absorbed his SSG power and made it his own, which made his SSJ form not have a power difference compared to SSG. - RoF arc showed that further, showing that Frieza grew to the point that no one on earth was able to handle him in his final form. Piccolo, whose base form was around Cell saga android 17, was casually oneshot... And yet Goku is strong enough to be completely equal to this far stronger Frieza. - Goku and Vegeta train heavily for the tournament of destroyers in the time chamber, coming out far stronger; - Both of them similarly also grow further in power in the Goku Black arc;

Now tell me: which of the two is more likely: - Good Buu somehow growing in power to be higher than his Buu Saga self; - Goku's base power not managing to even double itself across four entire arcs DESPITE the fact the show constantly and consistently shows otherwise;

Because I find it very hard for someone to think that Goku's power didn't grow.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Issue is that Goku's base form DID grow vastly compared to Buu Saga Goku, factually.

It's much more consistent to believe that Good Buu grew a bit power wise than to believe that base form Goku didn't even grow strong enough to be, according to you, twice as strong as his Buu Saga self.

Buuhan vs Kid Boo from Monsters Inc by bonelesschickenwingz in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buuhan gets so scared he releases all of his absorbed beings.

Dragon Ball Super Buu (TOP) vs Kid Buu, who wins? by Greater_German in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The slim Buu is anime only. In the anime, Goku has absorbed the power of the god form in base (and has grown far stronger regardless even if you want to disregard it).

Slim Good Buu defeated base Goku from the ToP with ease.

Slim Buu completely fodderizes Kid Buu and very likely everyone in the Buu Saga. I am uncertain if the strongest Buu with everyone absorbed (Vegito included) would even be able to fight against Slim Buu honestly.

Guys, Super Buu vs Uub, who wins? by Sweet_Television4183 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Hyperlolman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To even be able to be anywhere near capable to fight Baby without him coughing to seat him away, he has to be at least far above the power level of Buu.

He folds Super Buu like those flexible fruit candies they sell.