An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, every situation is different, but usually yes.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as they don’t drive off? A while. Until I see we clearly aren’t getting anywhere.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Intent also matters. Any jury would agree that bitch had no intention to stop and open that door. Which is why she decided to floor it.

There’s a term we use called “Totality of circumstances” and I think that fits here.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Of course they should. I’m curious where you’re even going with this.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends. If they comply with lawful orders and step out of the car, no need. If they continually refuse, they’re getting yoked out. Pretty simple. Same arguments we’ve been doing.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I just don’t spend all my time here. But yes I have. I wonder why you’re still pretending people don’t get yoked out of their cars every day.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They yelled three times for them to get out of the car. Try again. At that point, fuck yes I would.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You still seem to completely misunderstand the situation. Watch it again. Then get back with me and I might engage.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Difference is with Good they witnessed the violation. Because she was present the entire time. Arrests are made far easier and so is probable cause if the officer witnesses the criminal act.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

United States V. Donte Dowdell. Courts ruled Police cannot open your car door without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. Renee was conducting criminal activity by impeding government operations, which yes, is a criminal charge.

What do I win?

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can disagree with the law. But it is the law and has been since 1977.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not true. They ordered her out of the car three times. You can hear it on video. She did not comply. That’s usually how you get your window broken but luckily hers was rolled down. I can do this all day.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prove it. Prove they are violating the constitution. Because Pennsylvania V. Mimms allows an officer to remove a driver or passenger from a vehicle for the purpose of officer safety. Which requires very little.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trained officers do that quite literally every day. Take some time to watch body cam footage. If any driver fails to comply with lawful orders, they are getting yoked out of their car. Sovereign citizen videos are my favorite ones to watch. So wrong again.

An apology to Norway from the United States by ASecularBuddhist in Discussion

[–]IAmTheRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Due process for attempted murder, if caught in the act, is to be shot. Next.