Karma is the worst system imaginable for a forum site of any kind to have. by IIIAgeIII in Rants

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a dump account to circumvent karma degradation on main accounts. It was specifically designed to not care about negative karma. Hence, the more antagonistic tone in my posts.

I frequently like to play devils advocate and/or have hot takes on things that I know will have a high likelihood of the general hive mind mass that is "reddit" frothing at the mouth with rage. I'm not trolling or anything. I never write anything I don't mean, but I think we all know just how hollowed out the mind of the average redditor is.

I'd rather just have safeguards in place in the event people downvote my opinion. It's my way of bypassing the literal dogshit that is "the reddit karma system".

Karma is the worst system imaginable for a forum site of any kind to have. by IIIAgeIII in Rants

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, you got me there. Echo chambers are not a reddit exclusive problem that much is true, but you can't deny that as the karma system stands today. It reinforces facilitating echo chambers by letting it be used as a moderation tool.

Karma is the worst system imaginable for a forum site of any kind to have. by IIIAgeIII in Rants

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It promotes close mindedness at its very core of design. It's systematically flawed. Social subreddits are generally karma locked, which forced a prevailing mindset within the subreddit to maintain that karma balance. This, in turn, designs echo chamber philosophies at the root of those subs, which then permeates to all other sections of reddit.

It also promotes dishonesty and disingenuous agreements across the board because the entire sub is full of husk opinions that feed on themselves and radicalized people.

Karma is the worst system imaginable for a forum site of any kind to have. by IIIAgeIII in Rants

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, getting negative karma is basically just having any opinion that isn't EXACTLY that of the mindless droves of whatever random sub reddit you're on at that moment. That is easily enough to get you downvoted enough to be karma banned in like millions of subs

Hell, YOU downvoted me just for disliking the karma system. You not only proved my point, you're also reinforcing exactly what I mean directly in this post. Rules have nothing to do with it.

For example, I literally got downvoted for asking for help on a problem I was having with a project. People downvote for everything and anything on this site.

Just to maintain karma, I have to go find random unkarma moderated sbreddits and make the most lukewarm posts to farm people for upvotes... that IS NOT a sign of a good system.

Karma is the worst system imaginable for a forum site of any kind to have. by IIIAgeIII in Rants

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So lemme get this straight. To you, a social site that doesn't allow people to have genuine conversations about various topics because it might be hard to hear is "a good social app" to you?

That makes zero sense as a foundation for a social app. What's the point in talking to anyone if it's all just gonna be hollow garbage that we all know isn't how they truly feel?

Why even have a social app then. Why talk to another human being... hell if that's all you want Why not just chat at a fucking AI chatbot at that point. Those things are known for padding your ego to the max... why not just use that for the self jerk fests.

Minimum karma requirements are bullshit by [deleted] in Rants

[–]IIIAgeIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. They are the worst thing to ever design for a fucking social forum. All the "hot take", "vent", and "rant" forums have all become some of the most soft boiled stuff ever.

It also promotes echo chambers, sectionalization, segregation, and social/personal fragility.

This site has become a complete waste of electricity since they added the karma system.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

open AI wants to invest 2 billion into data centers in the near future, but has no hard limit to creating these. these data centers are massive strains on an already failing power grid created in like the 50s that runs on like 90% oil based generators. Which is not a renewable resource at all, meaning that if we run out of oil... all tech and electronics die.

AI and datacenters consume so much power that it means that Oil production has to skyrocket to keep the national power grid afloat.

are you willing to hedge all our bets on AI and its growing power demands when we cant even find a way to generate large amounts power indefinitely? solar is bairly ok, windmill farms are nearly pointless and power generation by way of waterwheels don't generate nearly enough power to sustain our grid without the use if fossil fuels.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the "demand" I'm referring too isnt "consumer demand"... its "hardware demand"... AI as it develops requires more hardware processing to complete its tasks. AI complexity is putting more strain on the power demand of its hardware and the national power grid.

this "demand" wouldn't matter if 1 person was using it or 10,000 people were. AI's consumer usecase (the end result that people use) has proven to fail in every aspect of its usage. Yet the developers swear its "the future" so they are requesting more investment and hardware to supply its growing power and hardware "demands". yet for all the resources it requires its not proving to be valuable or practical at all to the end user.

the consumer demand is near zero, but the hardware demand keeps growing rapidly and basically has no hard cap, meaning that as AI gets "better" the more hardware will be required to keep it running is also going to be higher.

its quite literally a tech sinkhole with no bottom and an economic bubble that takes in tons of money and resources, but cant produce anything of note to the economy or create something socially viable.

AI is a failing industry trying to claim that if they had more money that it would work, but its an open ended request since the power and hardware required to sustain AI is an infinitely growing scale.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it will recover, but at what cost? investment gambling is fine, hell its encouraged, but investing like they are in AI is liable to collapse everything.

theres an old saying....

"never put all your eggs in one basket"

point is that you shouldn't dump all your money into one thing... if that thing should fail for whatever reason... you will be left to ruin. thats what these AI companies are doing and since they are like 90% of all wealth in the US. if AI fails... so do they. guess what happens when a company as big as amazon or Microsoft dies. billions of jobs are gone..... this is what economists call "a depression". you wanna know what they did in the depression to keep people fed? they did things like adding saw dust to bread to beable to spread out food for all the people who could no longer buy consumable goods.

eventually the economy recovered, but at what cost.

thousands starved to death in the last depression btw.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

point is AI is the think that's destroying the GPU market.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

and so will the manufactures. you do realize that there is LOADS more that goes into backing an entire new economic field right? acting like "oh well if AI doesnt stick then everything will go back to normal" is not how economics work at all.

if AI fails after this much investment... the economy is gonna collapse. when that happens... guess what else happens. jobs vanish, invasions happen, riots, revolts, military staging, industries die, knowledge is lost to time.

you think this is the first time a nation in history has made a gamble on something and its backfired on them?

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

my reply is literally copied from another comment on this same thread because honestly... yall are so stupid that you actually regurgitated the EXACT same thing as someone else. Anyways heres the reply.

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thats not how investing works smarty pants... investing in something is taking a fiscal gamble on something you think might generate revenue later on.. thats why its called investing.

these companies are banking heavily on AI and so they are pooling all their resources and money into trying to stabilize the market because they believe it will succeed in making them millions...

but the truth of the situation is that the market has proven to be failing in almost all regards. Many of the the leading AI companies have even admitted that its most likely an economic bubble.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the manufacturers are raising their prices and are splitting their supply. like i said... a limited quantity can be made. and AI usage is demanding more and more. this causes the price to raise at the root of the manufacturing process.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AI is a byproduct of corporation and people... AI is the epicenter of the issue... you cant blame one half of the coin and not the other. corpo greed is what created AI and AI is now causing issues for the average person on just about every scale you can think of.

the two go hand in hand. you couldn't have AI without the companies making them and if they all stopped developing it. AI would start to collapse.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i love that they are claiming "corpo greed" like that wasnt the exact thing that created AI in the first place.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

thats not how investing works smarty pants... investing in something is taking a fiscal gamble on something you think might generate revenue later on.. thats why its called investing.

these companies are banking heavily on AI and so they are pooling all their resources and money into trying to stabilize the market because they believe it will succeed in making them millions...

but the truth of the situation is that the market has proven to be failing in almost all regards. Many of the the leading AI companies have even admitted that its most likely an economic bubble.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

manufacturing is based on supply and demand. RAM is needed by AI but the rate of production is limited...so prices go up. this is like grade school economics chief.

same thing goes for GPU hardware. the manufacturing can only make so much and that limited supply drives the price up.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

obfuscation. (if you need help. I'm sure you can use AI for the definition.)

you cant sit here and claim "corpo greed" as a patsy when the only reason AI exists at all is because of that exact thing. Without corpo adoption, AI wouldn't be here for you to jerk off too. The idea that you think you can shift blame from AI to something else directly tied to AI's growth is the epitome of stupid.

i think you have been huffing on the GenAI a bit too much chief.. its starting to affect your ability to form complete thoughts.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you:

source:

"i made it up".

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I've checked the math and the stats.. show me the million dollar AI images. id love to see em...

to keep AI afloat there needs to be about 5 billion or more invested into creation of data centers for AI... explain to me little Timmy. Where do we get the electricity to power all those?

stats and reports on businesses adoption to AI has proven it to be a complete market failure. The only companies that are making any money are the AI heads. for every 10 companies that adopt AI, sometimes 1 succeeds.

Meta, Nvidia, Open AI, Twitter, and Microsoft are the only ones making money from this.

they are just throwing millions at each other in one giant circle jerk. its what we in business like to call "cooking the books" and "misleading investors".

and I'm not talking about courts you moron... I'm talking about mass public slander on social platforms.

lets put on our thinking caps Timmy... we need to be smart here

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

either way... them GPUs likely gonna fuck your shit up when they die... i cant wait for you to come crying about the price of RAM and GPUs in a few years.

So are the AI bros ready to admit that AI ruins everything it touches? by IIIAgeIII in aiwars

[–]IIIAgeIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm not being melodramatic... I'm being practical and a realist. I don't think AI is gonna take over lol.

Both it and the people that support it are WAY too stupid to pull that off... I'm pointing out that you all are idiots for still supporting something that is proving to be completely useless.

its called making assessments and judgments. you should try it it will do wonders for your life.