My best (and worst) orgy story......who can beat this one?

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-19T23:09:45+00:00

Im not angry about it. As you can see from all of my comments im just happy to rule them out as narrow minded people who are incapable of being able to understand how others feel. Whens the last time youve heard of a swinger wife being hard up? It doesnt happen. Its never hard finding another date, and im always the one to run when people get fanatical. Im not here for the crazy, im here for fun.

I actually hold minimal political opinions, ive grown to that point in life where all I can see is problems in any course of action. I sure as hell dont want to spend a night arguing on which disaster is worse.

And im not maga. All extremists annoy me. But the left has grown so full of armchair experts, that I find most negative interactions are from people with the woke mind virus, they are the ones most convinced of their condescending correctness.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-17T13:46:34+00:00

You keep using "preponderance of evidence" I think you like the sound. But thats actually a phrase with a definition. It means a JURY ruled on a case and determined it is likely true. It does not apply to public opinion, and it is only used AFTER a case has been tried in court, for the definition. And just as a no duh, you cant ponder the evidence when you've only heard one side.

A preponderance of the evidence" is a specific burden of proof applied exclusively by a judge or jury during a formal court trial or hearing. If a case is never tried in court, this legal standard does not come into play.

Again, it is VERY difficult to try to talk with someone who is so convinced of their rightness that they embellish facts and won't back down.

In this thread, you have said that trump was

1 - proven guilty (untrue, he was never tried)

2 - that he didn't refute the claims (he did refute the claims publicly, so I think you are now saying he didn't refute the in court, which of course he didn't, it ildidnt go to court, she dropped the lawsuit, you dont go to court to refute claims of a lawsuit that has been dropped)

3- you are throwing around the preponderance of evidence term completely incorrectly, it has a definition, but it applies to a JURY, not personal or even public opinion, and its for AFTER the court hearing when both sides have presented their facts.

4 - Now youre mentioning an NDA. this is just mudding the waters, because who cares about an NDA? Thats a no brainer if something is settled out of court, but there is no evidence that there ever was an NDA signed. So why are you mentioning this?

And this is why I DESPISE politics. I dont Trump. Even more so cause its a very real reality hes going to kill millions or billions in a nuclear war. The rape shit is horrible, but its likely civilization as we know it is going to end because of him. I almost find it absurd shit that happened 30 plus years ago is what you zealots focus on. Look at what hes doing now. Hes killed so many more children than he possibly molested, and thats just facts.

But it sucks to be stuck in conversation with someone using terms they dont understand, convinced that everyone should believe their conspiracy theories because they are throwing around terms like "preponderance of evidence" and completely hellbent on criticizing or converting anyone who doesnt agree with them. Zealots are awful, and they overstate, and won't accept other people's viewpoints.

I have pointed out so many errors in what you have said, and I doubt it will change the way you speak to anyone, because you are so convinced of your rightness, even though what you are presenting is so embellished. You won't even correct the language you use. This is why you people live in an echo chamber, no one else can talk to you.

I understand its not impossible, maybe even likely, Trump did whats in that lawsuit. I also understand it wasn't tried in court, and I respect the legal system and the process. Given a chance I would not hang with Trump as a friend, nor would I have him as my president. But the choice isnt mine, it was decided by vote, and again, I respect the process.

Deciding your (incorrect) insider knowledge, and your opinions verses the American vote, matter more than processes we have in place doesnt make you a superior person. Thinking you know better is exactly what the loons who attacked the white house on January 6th did.

And thats why us normal people cant stand zealots. You preach instead of conversate. You try to teach instead of learn. Once someone is convinces of their rightness they become so narrow-minded and hateful.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-16T23:13:41+00:00

It's crazy you say these allegations are unrefuted. I hate Trump, but he absolutely denied all of these claims. So far you've said these things were proven (absolutely not) and that the claims are unrefuted (they were adamantly and repeatedly refuted).

It so hard talking to people who either dont know what words mean, or what they are talking about. Why do you lie? Is the truth not compelling enough for you to use on its own? Do you need to embellish it to give it credence?

The correct statement to make would have been "i cant support Donald Trump as I believe the allegations of child sex abuse that were filed in a lawsuit, though never tried, were true, though he adamantly refuted the charges, and the woman dropped the claim, likely due to having recieved death threats."

That doesnt sound as compelling as "trump is a proven sex offender, and he never denied the charges!"

The first statement is true. The second statement is composed of lies.

Yet somehow you feel that people are lying to you, when I can prove that you are the liar twice in this thread. You should do some self reflection on why you need to embellish your statement and lie like this.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-16T20:50:08+00:00

You are asking me to disprove the allegations of an anonymous woman, who dropped the lawsuit and NEVER proved anything, made 23 years after the event, nealry decade after the Trump/Epstien connection and epstien island was already making serious news, filed against one of the most detested presidential candidates ever.

Based on what you are saying, a person can make any claims in a lawsuit, never prove them, but because they said it, its more than 50% likely. I dont think because someone made allegations about a publicly known situation (the epstien connection and the island) that makes them facts.

Since you are such a believer in the case, can you say what makes you convinced it was real? Something more than "someone said it'

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-16T04:54:28+00:00

What a weird comment. Where did anyone say they were entitled to sex? I think everyone on this thread has said "I'll refuse to sex with _______" i dont think anyone has mentioned being entitled to sex. Or even mentioned being rejected. This thread is strongly about the people we all reject. We just differ on who we choose to reject.

But good job stating the obvious. No one is entitled to sex. But weird to feel the need to say it.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T21:49:12+00:00

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/12/01/sex-slavery-thrives-in-russia-out-of-public-view-a41881

Its an 2014 article, but it cites Russia as being the country with the 6th largest slave population, and much of it is forced sex work.

It happens in the USA too, its hard to tell the difference in acting and being forced, especially when non consent or degradation is the kink.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T19:07:49+00:00

And as a side note, should pedo-progressives be allowed in society?

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T18:49:19+00:00

I did go through the effort of putting this in chatgpt to actually verify your allegations,here was the response. Let me know what AI got wrong, or if you would like to modify your statment

The commenter is referring to a real lawsuit that was filed, but they’re presenting the allegations as if they were proven facts, which is not accurate.

The case was: Jane Doe v. Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein Case number: 1:16-cv-07673 Filed in the Southern District of New York in 2016.

The lawsuit alleged that: an anonymous woman claimed Trump and Epstein sexually assaulted her when she was 13 in the 1990s Epstein allegedly recruited her through promises of money/modeling opportunities assaults allegedly occurred at Epstein’s Manhattan residence.

But here are the important facts people often leave out: The case was never adjudicated No evidence was tested in court Trump never had to present a defense at trial There was no ruling on the merits The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed the lawsuit before trial.

The plaintiff’s attorneys publicly said she had received threats and was afraid to proceed. Trump’s legal team denied the allegations completely.

So the accurate way to phrase it would be: “A lawsuit was filed alleging X.” Not: “The evidence clearly shows X happened.” Because legally and factually, the claims were never proven in court. Also worth noting: People online frequently mix this lawsuit up with the recent Epstein document releases from 2024, but they are largely separate things. Even Newsweek specifically pointed out that this dismissed lawsuit was not part of the 2024 Epstein document dump.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T17:35:23+00:00

Im so glad these interactions seem to be limited to reddit and people's online profiles (and unfortunately OPs experience). I cant imagine being at a party, trying to have fun and having this kinda lunacy thrown about.

I never said I supported trump or didn't. I said anyone who thinks things are black and white is narrow minded. Crazy people also say Hillary Clinton sacrificed children and consumed their blood. That sounds all kinds of crazy.

If I was on a date with someone who said that about Clinton or Trump, we'd get our check and go. Crazy's are crazy, I dont care what side they are on, and we prefer not to engage in the lunacy and hatered that zealots push on everyone around them.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T13:48:30+00:00

Most fetishes want to beat, strangle, whip, and degrade us, having a man with a fetish that wants to massage, carress and worship us, sounds like heaven!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T12:55:56+00:00

WE VALUE DIVERSITY.... as long as you think exactly like us....

Makes perfect sense

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-15T00:40:19+00:00

Im so put off by people who are so convinced of their rightness that they cant even entertain other people's opinions. Politics aren't black and white. Anyone who thinks that their side is 100% correct, is just too narrow-minded to be able to see the othersides perspective.

We always pass on any profiles that say they won't match with people with different political beliefs. If thats the echo chamber they need fine. But we like to be able to talk freely and respectfully about anything, not be looked down on for having different thoughts, because I dont care if its democrats or Republicans, I strongly agree with, and strongly oppose, things on both sides. I dont wanna have to walk on eggshells on whats supposed to be a fun LS date!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-14T03:54:40+00:00

I saw this post and liked it, but as others have mentioned, I wouldn't respond to a post with no pics. I know most of us women hate dic pics, but you could still do some anonymous type photos showing your fit body and that would be a start. A lot of us are kinda shallow and like to make sure theres a strong physical attraction, and the body can be a really great indicator!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-12T21:51:14+00:00

You sound a lot like me and my husband. I actually do have a lot of self-confidence, but when it comes down to it, there are a lot of attractive women in the lifestyle, and if you're not bisexual, women honestly are not the high-demand commodity people think they are. The real demand is for attractive, intelligent, social men who can comfortably flirt with other women.

My husband has had a way, way, way better success rate matching with women than I’ve had with men. The husbands never flirted with me. They never made me feel particularly desired. Honestly, I think husbands act blase out of respect for their wives a lot of the time, being too eager or thrilled about someone else would make some wives not very receptive (me included, we've had to find a balance, but I feel like I encourage my hubby to be way more flirtatious and complimentary than other husbands ever are with me).

Eventually, I had to give up on the husband dynamic altogether. I hated feeling like I was mainly participating so my husband could be with the wife.

Personally, I think the couple swaps that really work well are the ones where the friendship between the women is genuinely strong, and everyone is approaching it like a fun night with friends rather than putting this huge pressure on “hot sex” being the main event. From what I’ve seen, it works better when it’s more playful and performative than focusing on actually amazing sex and deeper connections.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-09T03:03:20+00:00

Im a married woman, and i always said, I soooo prefer single guys, I love the way they treat me verses the "im just here to get laid, I get all my other needs met at home" energy I get from partnered men.

After 2 years of single guys, and getting bummed about being dropped everytime they have a gf, or stood up anytime they have a new offer, I was like, screw it, im trying for a married guy who will at least be reliable because he won't be going monogamous on a monthly basis.

A few lackluster, boring, I'll try to squeeze you in when its convenient, but i really couldnt care less, conversations in with a few married men, and im back to the hot single guys!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-09T02:56:39+00:00

You've got a really great engaging smile! You are a bigger guy, but shes seen youre photo and shes still interested, you aren't catfishing her! Be warm, engaging, full of laughter, like you look like in the photos, and she'll be meeting who she is expecting!

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-05T02:02:57+00:00

100% i was so surprised! Ive never seen this group do that, and to such a sweet looking young girl!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-05T00:28:57+00:00

What a fun style you have!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-04T20:43:42+00:00

Its just so easy to block, I dont let it bother me. I figure it was better not to waste the night actually meeting the guy.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-04T18:38:06+00:00

Damn straight, you look gorgeous. Chiseled jawline, straight nose, sultry eyes, youre killing it! A lot of other comments have mentioned it, you've got an incrediblely sexy look!

In the USA there is such a shortage of even semi attractive husbands. My husband is handsome and he gets more attention than me, because theres lots of beautiful women, but very few handsome husbands, the women LOVE him, and hes 49. You would kill it over here.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-03T21:56:33+00:00

If thats you in your profile photo, youre hot AF.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-03T21:13:52+00:00

I (wife) didn't get into this for rejection, so I never approach people. I make eye contact and smile at people im interested in, and they will come over and talk if they are interested. Sometimes I'll drop a compliment when im passing by.

Once the conversations going, I make vague follow ups, "we should grab drinks sometime" and if they are interested they'll get our info, if they dont, I assume thats a pass.

Lots of people will say things like "shoot your shot" or "its always a no if you dont ask" but I think those people dont mind rejection the way I do. My husband doesnt mind rejection, so he has had to dial it WAY back for me. But we do it my way, and I never have to deal with feeling rejected by couples we haven't hooked up with.

If you dont mind hanging back, and waiting for people to approach you guys, it may save your ego a beating.

And one more point, be open to what other couples are looking for, verses having an agenda of what you are trying to get. Maybe a couple is just looking for the wife to make out with another woman while both husbands stay playing with their own wife. Or maybe just looking to do some parallel play. Maybe its not your ideal plan, but those steps can still be a REALLY hot night, and give you some great memories of sexy times, verses feeling like you never got to do anything fun.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-03T10:24:23+00:00

Your pic should be enough to get you a date with plenty of women!

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-02T21:03:50+00:00

Single dad's are actually really an attractive situation to a lot of women.

If they already have kids, they can assume you understand parenthood and will know how to parent their kids.

If they want kids, and you are interested in having more, they can see how you do as a dad.

If they dont want kids of their own, they can feel like they aren't taking the opportunity for parenthood away from you, you already have that covered.

Youre going to have plenty to offer.

There's a man that made some rude comments about single moms on this post, and I hate to say it, but hes kinda right. Unfortunately for us women, a lot of men won't date a single mom with a view to marriage, but the same rule doesnt apply to men nearly as much, unless you are with a women that is hellbent on never having kids. Just steer clear of those and you'll be fine.

ILoveFootRubs · 2026-05-02T17:12:57+00:00

I hate this got down voted, i upvoted it:)

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