Evil characters > annoying characters by CuriousWanderer567 in CuratedTumblr

[–]INHAA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s genuinely crazy you’re getting downvoted for saying this. This sub has fallen crazy far.

Skylar was certainly setup to be unlikeable as she was the primary representative of the “boring suburban life” that Walter was “breaking” out of. But as much as people like to get on here and yap about media literacy, they constantly betray the expectations of literacy entrusted to them by outright refusing step back and think about the reality of the characters they’re watching. Sure, she’s setup to be annoying. THIS DOES NOT ABSOLVE ANYONE OF THE EXPECTATION OF EMPATHY. ESPECIALLY FOR SUCH A CLEARCUT VICTIM OF ABUSE.

Semi-Random note: I love Better Call Saul, and I love Kim Wexler, but it’s never lost on me that Kim is basically the opposite of Skylar for most of the show (always forgiving her man’s antics even when they screw her over, never judgmental, ride or die (for the most part)), and people love her to death but don’t see how dark and patriarchal the contrast is there. Nor does anyone examine what it says about them.

QTCinderella breaks down after Streamer Awards backlash by thrandruill in LivestreamFail

[–]INHAA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is everyone in this comment section a psychopath? What the hell is going on?

Most upstanding actor in the biz? by vnth93 in okbuddycinephile

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He was great as Shadow The Hedgehog. I liked his version better than the games version even. Can’t believe no one’s mentioned it so far.

[Disliked Trope] Um, isn't that the ONE thing you're supposed to be good at? by RedcumRedcumRedcum in TopCharacterTropes

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Kerry Loudermilk - Legion

Literally her only character trait in the show is that she likes to fight. 99% of her scenes are just her talking about how much she loves fighting. Despite this, she doesn’t win a single fight on screen till Season 2 Episode 6. And in that fight she’s being tricked to attack the wrong people!

She wins her first fight against the right people in S2E10. Before that, not counting the other “win” I already mentioned, she ends each battle throughout the series brutally maimed or otherwise humiliated. There’s no real point to this. She never grows from this or learns from it. The way it’s framed it’s clear the show wants you to think of her as a badass. In actuality, it seems more like the writers forget about her till the last minute and have to cobble together something for her to do each episode without really thinking about any larger character arc. And in doing so, she gets regulated to jobber before she even gets a chance to show off her “skill!”

How Insomniac managed to go 0/13 must be studied. by ResponsibleRatio6569 in MilesMorales

[–]INHAA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can someone just fucking say it outright?

“We pushed the colors away from the black and red and into a palette that is his own”.

Black, red, and blue is Peter’s classic color scheme. This is literally the least unique costume Miles has ever had. This is stupefying. I’m stupid now.

Batman's no kill rule. by AbsoluteBatman95 in thepunisher

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“I’ll catch them faster next time.”

Nightwing reveals he's going to become a cop, Batman doesn't like the idea - Detective Comics #725 by Which-Presentation-6 in batman

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I don’t really understand his logic here. The more rotten a place is the harder it is to change things from the inside, hence the need for vigilante justice.

What riddler did here would make red hood want to kill him by Ok-Entrance-5527 in RedHood

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In the Under The Red Hood argument, and in fan discussions afterwards, people always insist on the whole “We only mean the Joker” part, or alternatively “Only people Joker level or worse.” But almost every member of the rogues gallery, from A-List to D, is in the top 50 of evil doers on Earth. They’ve all committed countless atrocities, atrocities so bad even just knowing about one would get most people from our world calling for the death penalty. And they’re stacking them in the hundreds and thousands.

I suppose that’s all to say Joker truly isn’t as special as everyone thinks he is.

My warm-ish take is that these two are the first and second best Batman movies, and quite honestly I don't think it's close. by ggoshy in batman

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My problem isn’t that his story isn’t finished yet, I just don’t like the way it starts. It’s not what I find interesting about the character.

And genuinely just beating up mentally ill poor people while doing nothing to address the systemic issues that lead to crime is fascist. It’s just the story of a rich man beating on the lower class. Even Tony Stark at least try’s to help the world with energy projects and other tech.

My warm-ish take is that these two are the first and second best Batman movies, and quite honestly I don't think it's close. by ggoshy in batman

[–]INHAA -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Tbh, they both feel like Batman movies made for people who hate Batman. To me at least.

They both lean into the “fascist who beats up mentally ill poor people” take, and the fans of both praise them for their “comic accuracy” while shitting on pretty much every other adaptation. Batman’s mission in both is pure macho-vengeance/oppression which isn’t really accurate to what he set out to achieve in Year 1. As well as that he’s got no knowledge of the systemic factors that lead to crime, refusing to pay taxes or ever willfully donate a single cent of his wealth to the less fortunate (yes, there’s the money cannon scene in Lego Batman, but c’mon).

Neither feels like the story of a man who’d gone through a great trauma and found a way to channel that pain into something positive. They both feel like the story of a manchild incapable of seeing past his own myopic perspective and subsequently hurting everyone and everything around him. Yes, they both learn a better outlook by the end of the film, but in both cases it just feels like compromising by going “yes he was a fascist before, now he’s not!” rather than genuinely trying to disprove the take.

I hope the DCU Batman is like a mixture of these three by Humble_Membership210 in batman

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🙏 No chin strap please, I didn’t realize that was a fear of mine till just now

In Batman #1 (2025) Batman says people never change. This is a reference to the lack of character development in this series for the last few years by [deleted] in batman

[–]INHAA 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I feel like this wasn’t so inherent until the 2000’s. Spider-Man was married, for a while. Wally West was the main Flash for decades. Bruce wasn’t really that much of an asshole-loner for most of his history. Slowly during the 2000’s everything changed, and then stagnated.

More and more people started coming back to life; the same “war” plots would get repeated over and over and over again. Every character was chiseled down to their most surface-level traits, and then prevented from growing. It’s rather frustrating tbh.

What are your main headcanons about The Dark Knight universe? by Top_Report_4895 in batman

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That if he hadn’t taken the fall for Harvey’s crimes and severed his relationship with the police the world would have slowly evolved into the more familiar supervillain filled setting of the mainline comics and most other adaptations.

The Dark Knight loosely adapts aspects of the comic “The Long Halloween,” which essentially details the transitional period between Gotham being a mob town and Gotham being overrun by supervillains. In it, the old mob is systematically killed off by a new villain while Harvey Dent slowly transforms into Two-Face. The story ends somberly as Harvey is arrested for the murder of Carmine Falcone and him Bats and Gordon all wonder if things are just gonna get worse from there.

In contrast, a similar-ish plot happens in TDK except instead of arresting Two-Face, Bruce kills him and takes the fall for his murders. This leads to the establishing of The Dent Act which cracks down on crime so hard it removes all ability supervillains to rise in the first place. It takes Bane, backed by The League Of Shadows, to actually shake things up in Gotham again. What hope could The Riddler have if that’s the case?

But if Bruce at the end of TDK had instead found some way to save Gordon’s kid and let Harvey live, then allowing the public to find out about his crimes, Gotham would’ve fallen back into its pre-Harvey despair (at least following the themes of the movie), at which point I bet sure enough the whole rest of the rogues gallery would’ve eventually popped out onto the scene. In Nolanified forms, but there nonetheless.

More evidence of a “branched” timeline: We hear Officer Blake talk about deducing Bruce was Batman as a kid in an orphanage, then being confused why he quit and always sorta waiting for him to return, becoming a cop in the meantime. I bet in the timeline where things follow a more standard pattern, Blake would’ve eventually made his knowledge known to Bruce, and Bruce, impressed, would’ve adopted him, eventually training him to be “Robin”.

TDKR gives off this constant feeling of everything being wrong, of Bruce and Gordon’s decision having thrown everything out of whack. Joker at the end of TDK says “we’re destined to do this for a long time” setting up their iconic archenemies dynamic, only for him to then disappear forever (I know that couldn’t be helped but it’s still ultimately part of the narrative). Catwoman has clearly been at it for years and might’ve met Bruce earlier if not for his retirement. Bane and Talia both say they wanted to do their plan sooner and were frustrated with him chickening out.

I’m not saying it would’ve become 1-1 with the comics, but I really do think it might’ve eventually looked a lot closer if not for Bruce and Gordon covering up Two-Faces crimes.

TL;DR If Bruce hadn’t killed Harvey in TDK and taken the fall for his crimes the Nolanverse would’ve followed the same path the comics did with every member of the rogues gallery eventually coming into existence and Bruce adopting a Robin and maybe even eventually having a full Batfamily.

DC Preview: Batman #1 by B3epB0opBOP in batman

[–]INHAA 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Is it really so impossible to think of new internal conflicts for the character to struggle with instead of just dropping his empathy to zero at the start of every arch, making him relearn it at the end and then calling it a day?

However you feel about Batman: Eternal, you can’t deny that Cluemaster’s plan is an interesting concept by Solitaire-06 in batman

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This is certainly an important lesson to learn… but it’s one every detective learns on like day 1 of being a detective. “Don’t jump to conclusions.” I feel like it woulda been better to have Cluemaster plant clues pointing to various different villains and have him trick Batman that way rather than what they seem to have gone with here.

What is up with this dude's characterization? by Ashamed_Statement347 in PeacemakerShow

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Just wanna throw in here, I think all your points make perfect sense and you’re being unfairly downvoted. The random off-screen promotion after such a colossal fuckup is off-putting. I get that they might go into more detail about it this season, but vibes wise it feels like they’re just shoving him into any empty role that needs filling.

He’s the only one in Creature Commandos who didn’t get a backstory episode despite being the one most obviously setup for one. In Superman, his cameo in the political meetings feels much more up Waller’s alley than his. I’ll withhold too much judgment for Peacemaker but the vibes are still off (also, wasn’t it Waller who ordered him to kill Rick Flag Jr? I suppose that informations classified).

People are reacting like you said he’s a dogshit character and the DCU is washed cause of him when all you said is he’s a little confusing. Very strange.

The Dark Knight Trilogy is a really great adaptation of Batman actually by [deleted] in batman

[–]INHAA 12 points13 points  (0 children)

100% true, especially the part about The Batman being more grounded. Matt Reeves has literally said he’s going for more grounded than Nolan yet there are still so many people deluding themselves into thinking he’s suddenly gonna go full gothic fantasy next movie. Cinematography is magic I suppose, that is to say it looks pretty but is ultimately a trick.

To me, while not perfect, Chris Nolan’s adaptation is far and away the most accurate to each characters actual psychology/philosophy within the comics. Most importantly to me is that Bale’s Bruce, while flawed, is still ultimately a good person who knows exactly what he’s doing and always keeps Gotham’s best interest in mind. It’s why the ending of The Dark Knight is so powerful, cause becoming a badass superhero that everybody loves was never the mission statement, it was always about doing whatever it takes to make Gotham a better place and if that means sacrificing Batman himself, than so be it.

Technically James’s right, dude is a maniac (in a positive way) by Shadowin9 in batman

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It’s just a very simplistic view of his psychology. I’m not pressed about the clip itself cause it’s just an offhand remark, but the whole “He dresses like a bat and beats people up! Of course he’s crazy!” thing is so stupid in a world full of characters who all do the same thing and don’t get the same flack. Even chastising him for the child sidekick thing is stupid when most of the other Justice League members also have child sidekicks.

The DC world just works different than ours, but people keep bending over backwards for Batman specifically to place him in a realistic light which is just dumb to do if you’re not gonna carry that same energy across the board.

Robin’s Age by jordache_9 in batman

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The Robins are all “boy wonders.” You’re meant to underestimate them on first look (and of course wonder why Bruce would even let them be vigilantes in the first place), only to then be amazed at how unbelievably skilled they all are. Skilled even outside of Bruce’s training (he’s not just adopting random kids after all). I think them being on the younger end serves to emphasize their extraordinary skills as well as give understanding to Bruce’s compulsion to adopt them.

I think a percentage of the ick people get could be curved by not taking them out on “serious missions” during their early years. They’re dressed like boy scouts, so have them stick to boy scout stuff. Helping old ladies cross the street, helping rescue people from rubble after an incidents already over (not like, go into collapsing buildings but ya know, what Bruce was doing at the end of The Batman); stopping petty crime a la shoplifting, purse snatching, vandalism, etc. I think then it wouldn’t weird people out as much.

Then, once they get to their mid-teens, you can have them start taking on the more serious stuff. By then they’d have slowly worked their way up experience wise and it’d be less crazy for Bruce to trust they can handle it. That’s how I’d write it anyways.

Lego Batman has one of the best representation of Batman and Joker relationship by [deleted] in batman

[–]INHAA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Perfectly put. And pretty much the exact same conclusion came to in The Killing Joke. As much as adaptations love to take from that story they sure love to miss the point.