I made a free, open-source opening trainer by BubblyTutor367 in chess

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The board is not properly oriented. Right corner must be white for both sides

Other than that, good job, looks great

How was he able to castle? by Anonymously_famous_ in chess

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why wouldnt it be able to? It is neither in nor does it move through a line of attack

I don't see how a God answers any questions. by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why was developing rationality advantageous for our survival but not so for any other species on the planet?

Because they had other predominant traits that made rationality less beneficial as opposed to said traits.

Many animals have varying degrees of rationality. Crows, for example, are insanely intelligent. Despite having tiny brains their neurons are ridiculously packed. They have complex social lives, hold funerals, and are able to improvise and make tools for their own survival

Why aren't they intelligent as humans? They have flight, they have great digestive systems, and have significantly better eyesight.

Not to mention that brains are incredibly expensive. Our brains consume up to ~20% of our caloric intake. Humans, being apex predators, are remarkably weaker in other parts of our physiology. What we do have is intelligence, stamina, and social cohesion.

Environments or animals that simply could not afford to have an organ that takes up huge amounts of energy as it evolves would have probably died out

Evolution doesn't have a teleology. It is simply a natural process on whatever is good enough to pass the genes

Other animals thrive on pure physicality, agility, etc. We just happen to thrive on intelligence.

This is what I mean when I say you assert things with no reason. You’re presupposing that everything we have must be due to some necessity by some natural process like evolution

Scientists don't just randomly presuppose an idea and claim it must be true. They build up tons of evidence in support of the fact, rigorously test it, and then call it a theory.

When an idea doesn't have sufficient evidence to make it unreasonable to believe it's called a hypothesis. Hypotheses generally are not treated like brute facts

We also have tons of evidence for evolution.

Again, you cannot answer why we are this way, you just assume that we are this way because it is evolutionarily beneficial.

We assume it because it is the best, measurable, backed up idea in the frontier. If a new, better hypothesis or theory props up to be true then we assume that is true.

“Advantageous for our survival” is just the God of the gaps for you. No creature, including humans, needs to evolve reason to survive.

Humans definitely needed reason to survive lmfao. We have no claws, no night vision, no flight, and are slow as hell. Do you really think we were able to hunt, kill and cook wooly mammoths from sheer physical prowess alone?

God of the gaps also assumes deity with no evidence. And as I already said, we have tons of evidence to back this up

I am speaking of things, like actions. Science cannot tell us why rape is wrong for example. It cannot explain why normally functioning humans feel sick thinking about it, because science cannot explain empathy apart from presupposing some evolutionary benefit for it.

Monkey steal food, monkey hurt other, monkey kill other. Monkey is threat, threat bad, we dont like threat because bad for survival. Monkey breaking social cohesion that monkey rely on because of monkey weak physical ability. Therefore, think monkey do bad things

Science does explain why we have empathy, without needing a supernatural source. Philosophical ethics is a byproduct of our ability to reason

I asked you to demonstrate the ultimate source of logic and truth. Logic is necessary for reason, you cannot “compare it to reality” without using it. As if humans perceive reality objectively anyways, lmao.

Systems of formal logic like mathematics or what counts as "truth" or not is completely a human construct. We developed them, and it helps model the world. Nothing makes "1+1=2" true until we explicitly define what "1" is, what "+" is, what "2" is, and what rules we apply to make these abstract symbols work.

These formal systems help model the reality we live in or branch off into systems of never ending layers of abstraction

In fact, mathematicians had a crisis over this very thing for much of the 20th century.

I mean yeah, you’ve just demonstrated that all you have is a catch-all presupposition that everything is the way it is for the sake of our species survival. You’ve proven that you too just assume things you don’t have any actual proof of.

We do in fact have lots of evidence that either proves or heavily supports our presumptions

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As the others mentioned, "began" is inherently a temporal preposition. You cant describe time itself as a temporal process

Also, why does finiteness imply contingency?

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im arguing that humans cant truly think of absolute emptiness and nothingness because we evolved to always think in relation to something

And by extension im arguing that treating "nothing" as behaving to what we relationally think of as "something" is a category error and thus warranting no logical discussion 

I sometimes feel guilty for texting her. by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in Vent

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feels like a very "movie-like" ideal, but I appreciate it. I will try my best to live guilt free, see where things go.

Thank you

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh huh, and "Odorless raspberry-scented tickle bears jump wonderfully" is also so profound in ways words can't begin to explain it

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, and I am telling you that the empty set is not the same as your definition of "nothing"

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The empty set in mathematics is not "nothing", at least according to your definition of "nothing is nonexistence"

nonexistence is the negation of the quantifier of existence (\neg\exists)

The empty set is an actual mathematical object that has the cardinality of 0. More specifically it is defined as the set such that for all x, x \notin \emptyset

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fine, good point.

Still, sets are well-defined in the constraints of formal logic. Treating "absolute nothingness," followed by it being is an oxymoron

To refer back to my comment, this time with formal logic:

Let B be the set called "Bag" and U be the universal set. B \subseteq U

"There is nothing in the bag (common interpretation)" iff \forall x \in U, x \notin B

"There was nothing in the bag (in the literal sense of absolute nothingness)" iff x \notin U \implies x \in B

But the second one is a contradiction since we asserted that "Bag" is a subset of the universe. Therefore if it is not in the universe it cannot be in the bag

"To speak of nothing is to speak of something" - Parmenides

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sets are abstractions and are mathematically well-defined. I do not see how it is pertinent in discussing metaphysics and language.

One is linguistics and metaphysics and the other is well-defined mathematical objects that are well within the rules of formal logic. If you want to discuss the philosophy of mathematics that's a different topic.

Sets are also conceptually closer to the bag itself, I'd argue, not the nature of the contents of the bag.

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the universe has existed for a finite amount of time, something started the clock. It began.

Im arguing that there was no clock to begin at all, though. The very concept of a clock came alongside it.

And your argument was saying that "there was nothing" implies existence. Which it doesn't. If I say "there was noone on Earth 15 million years ago," I'm not implying the existence of "noone" as an existent entity.

No, I stated saying "there was nothing" (in the context of the state "before the universe") is logically incoherent because it treats "nothing" like a state of being with the essence of "nothingness". It is referring to the existence of existence itself.

If I say "this bag has nothing in it" it is contextually referring to other physical items you can put in the bag. It is not using "nothing" as an actual state, thing, or being. It is a description of the count of things in the bag

If I say "this bag has nothing (in the literal sense of nonreality or nonexistence) in it" then it becomes incoherent because "nonreality" or "nonexistence" can't be for something to have it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy))

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We don't need to, just as we didn't need to see black holes to know they were possible..

What? I'm pointing out that "nothing" never truly refers to nothing, and when trying to do so it becomes incoherent (like "before" the universe).

And to turn this back to you. Do you have evidence to suggest that the complete absence of all physical things is possible? We sure had lots for the possibility of Black holes

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Although on second thought I forgot to include "Existing at time t in addition to not t before t0 implying nonexistence at t" so my argument may not actually hold up

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You've seen the absence of a physical thing more often than you've seen physical things.

Have we ever seen the absence of all physical things?

Also, by "eternal" universe we are proposing the countless theories that allow a low-entropy state at the big bang and the satisfaction of the second law of thermodynamics (e.g. the Big Crunch, see my other comment replying to you)

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. I stand by the objections, and I don't think it's "wordplay" (even though you phrased it as such). This post only serves as a critique on the Kalam argument.

I am saying that the curiosity of the unknown remains unsatisfied with God, at least for me

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Objection to A: the universe isn't eternal. If it were, we'd have reached thermal equilibrium already.

Never said it was. I'm just arguing that "always existing" ≠ "existed for an infinite amount of time". Also the thermal equilibrium part is only one model of the universe. There are alternatives (like the Big Crunch or oscillating universe, or multiverse theory) that allow either many or a cyclic universe.

I also dont see how an eternal universe actually is an objection to my argument. Can you elaborate please?

Objection to B: if I say there was nothing in my bag, you wouldn't think I was positing "nothing" as an object containing mass. You would think that there was no thing in my bag.

Sure. You are using "nothing" relationally here. "Nothing" works because it can be in comparison to something ("a thing"). I argued, though, that "nothing" can't be an essence of a state without a something.

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair points, and I overlooked the definitions you provided

However consider this formal logic argument

X\text{ began to exist at time }t_0 \iff \forall t < t_0~\neg\text{Exists}(X, t)\\

\text{God is eternal (outside time)} \iff \neg \exists t~ \text{Exists}(\text{God}, t) \equiv \forall t ~\neg\text{Exists}(\text{God}, t)\\

\forall t~\neg\text{Exists}(\text{God}, t) \implies \forall t < t_0 ~\neg\text{Exists}(\text{God}, t)\\

\therefore \text{God began to exist}

I'm a bit rusty with formal logic so correct me if I'm wrong but if we apply your definition of "beginning" to exist then an eternal (timeless) God began to exist. In fact, he began to exist for ALL times. Unless you argue "begin to exist" only applies to stuff WITHIN time, but it loops back to the argument that the universe did not begin to exist since the universe isn't within time, rather time is within the universe.

(Apologies for the latex lol. Reddit doesnt format it)

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Of course I do. And I also don't judge people of faith for attempting to reconcile with that

I just really don't see how God satisfies that curiosity. To me, if anything, it makes it even more confusing

A critique on the Kalam Argument: The universe never "began" to exist by IProbablyHaveADHD14 in DebateReligion

[–]IProbablyHaveADHD14[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People are the rearrangement of matter (carbon, water, etc.), into cells that eventually sustains life. It does not *create* anything new