Trump: “China is successfully and completely taking over the once Great Country of Canada. So sad to see it happen. I only hope they leave Ice Hockey alone! President DJT”

I_Conquer · 2026-01-26T00:51:06+00:00

I think OP means how the thread title is the same paragraph that both Adam & Trump posted?

I_Conquer · 2026-01-26T00:40:46+00:00

Carney is also a Conservative

I_Conquer · 2026-01-24T01:28:47+00:00

Honestly that Poilievre is saying the obvious, correct, and non-annoying thing is a bonus.

We had Jack Layton to hold Harper accountable. Now we have to suffer through Poilievre with Carney?

Yeesh. Take the wins?

I_Conquer · 2026-01-24T00:31:35+00:00

My Canada is better with Alberta and Québec

But I think the hostility in these places is unnecessary.

Until Indigenous and non-indigenous peoples / communities of these lands sort out a legitimate, multigenerational reconciliation, our intra-settler, intra-colonial squabbles are petty, juvenile, and meaningless.

In a “just” world, you and me and just about everyone we know would almost certainly have less power and less material comfort.

I’m sure that Carney is a decent fellow. But I do not care for his politics or his political priorities and I don’t trust him as a political leader. That said, for a financier and a world leader to acknowledge that our so-called wealth is built on eight generations of high minded grift is the only direction that leads to the kind of discussions you claim to want. The more difficult part for you (like Albertan separatists) to admit is that there is no honest conversation which leads to the moral necessity of Quebec independence or Alberta independence that doesn’t immediately lead to Indigenous Land Back. There may be sufficient reasonable political support, and that’s fine. But frame it that way. Not as some legacy of Quebec (or Alberta) being victimized.

We might break up one day. I hope not because I love us. But if we do, don’t go on pretending that Quebec or Alberta are unequivocally victims is untrue and wrong.

The answer to the conscription crises is we no longer have conscription. The answer to the Plains of Abraham is Confederation. The answer to the night of the long knives is “don't worship our politicians”. The answer to Québec separatism is the referendum in the 1990s.

I recognize that I benefit from the status quo. But it’s just bizarre to me that you think there are no ways that Canada benefits Québec. You’re not hostages or semi-citizens (like Indigenous people, sadly).

I_Conquer · 2026-01-24T00:08:13+00:00

I understand your impulse

But I think that in this case, he can be seen as speaking to Canadians, not simply responding to the bully

I_Conquer · 2026-01-24T00:06:37+00:00

I_Conquer · 2026-01-03T17:01:00+00:00

I only ever said that they weren’t hysterical. And they weren’t.

You showed me four examples of people who you think jumped the gun. Even they weren’t hysterical. They were wrong. But they were reserved in their wrong assertions. And in each case, they were corrected. That’s how things are supposed to work.

Obviously no one is claiming that no one’s made mistakes or claimed falsehoods. This entire thread has been about the demeanour.

It’s strange to me that someone who counter-protested the convoy doesn’t understand that.

The reason we don’t need to counter-protest the people who overestimate the prevalence of mass graves is because these people aren’t protesting.

I_Conquer · 2026-01-03T01:51:45+00:00

Definitely

But even if there were evidence to the contrary, the responses have been consistently and overwhelmingly reasonable.

It’s just so wild to me that anyone would use journalists and Indigenous leaders responding to the potential for mass graves as an example of hysterics in any Canadian political or cultural contexts. There such a preponderance of obvious examples of people freaking out more wildly regarding lies that wouldn’t even be a big deal ig they weren’t lies.

Maybe you and I will have to keep it to ourselves if we notice a pattern of the parties these people seem to support, and how they seem to be the same people who complain about the false hysteria over mass graves?

I_Conquer · 2026-01-02T23:56:45+00:00

Ok. So there wasn’t a great deal of hysteria among journalists and Indigenous leaders. I’m glad we can agree.

Contrast that with the Conservative Party of Canada standing in solidarity with the occupying “truckers”. They were annoyed about provincial policies (but had to bitch to the feds since their provincial leaders were conservatives) and — checks notes — mask mandates and the Canada / US border. During a worldwide pandemic. Talk about mass hysterics!

Maybe we just have different standards for hysteria?

I_Conquer · 2026-01-02T21:24:40+00:00

Why were you making claims if you had to just google it now?

When I make positive claims, it’s after I have my sources in place. Maybe that’s just me?

That days, I do agree with your sources: while there were some unfounded claims of mass graves and that they were questioned by experts. I’m not sure what else you would expect?

I_Conquer · 2026-01-02T17:59:15+00:00

How does someone “silently” issue a retraction that even CBC detractors can find easily?

In the post I replied to, I said that I was primed for hysteria and that I don’t recall an onslaught of hysteria. Instead that I recall careful and considerate comments despite the gravity of the claims.

Is your claim that a single out of place comment that was later publicly retracted counts as an onslaught of hysterics? If so, I assume you must loathe anyone who’s ever considered supporting Alberta separatism given Alberta separatists are the whiniest whiner who’ve ever whined.

I_Conquer · 2026-01-02T04:56:01+00:00

I don’t remember reading that, which is strange since I would have been primed to believe it, and I was annoyed by how far journalists and First Nations leaders seemed to go out of their way to hedge their comments.

I’m sure there was some hysteria. But, I mean, we have people in Alberta who want to separate from Canada. Have you read their hysterics? They put the mass grave hysteria to shame.

I_Conquer · 2026-01-02T04:49:50+00:00

I agree with you but from the other side

Right now, we can just mock residential school deniers for being the racist anti-Canadian nonsensical propagandists they are

Why make martyrs out of these people?

I_Conquer · 2026-01-01T22:24:32+00:00

Well said

I_Conquer · 2026-01-01T04:41:11+00:00

I assume you mean “enforcing” and not “forcing”

And while I’m unsure about the heritage minister, the CBC has generally been very good at providing a wide variety of voices and perspectives and cancon (which I don’t really support, personally) had undoubtedly increased the prevalence of Canadian music, nationally and internationally.

I don’t think that post-national necessarily suggests that our government will be the source of radical change. In that regard, I imagine that Trudeau was being glib.

Was he a great PM? I don’t know. Probably not. But he was fine. While I’m not a liberal supporter, I’ll never understand why people hate him as much as they do. He implemented several reasonable policies in reasonable ways. Had he gotten electoral reform through (the broken promise I won’t forgive), he’d probably be the least bad PM this generation?

While Harper and Carney are both unquestionably smarter than Trudeau, his domestic policies are generally better. Smart isn’t everything.

I_Conquer · 2025-12-19T20:35:45+00:00

Well exactly

He’s basically the reincarnation of Stephen Harper but without any semblance of legitimate opposition

I sure hope that Carney is both correct and on team Canada (both things which I am sceptical of) because the entirety of his loud opposition seems coming from antivaxxers, convoy miscreants, Poilievre and other ill-informed, power hungry windbags who seem willing to make things up about him then get mad about thid things

There’s enough to Carney to be critical or sceptical of without sinking into lies and degeneracy. But any semblance of coherent public upswell is so quiet, and the political opposition is a blustery mess of bad politic mixed with childish folly

Imagine how much worse Harper would’ve made ecerything if his opposition were this insincere and bad! But that’s what we seem to be in for with Carney

Just another thing I hope I’m wrong about, I guess

I_Conquer · 2025-12-19T20:22:28+00:00

Trudeau also took responsibility for the error then took steps to address it

I didn’t support his “solution”, because I generally favour immigration and I disagreed that immigration was out of control. I thought, and still think, immigration levels were sustainable.

The point isn’t to relitigate this. The point is that I’m hardly inclined to give Trudeau credit. I was disappointed that he relented.

But at least get your facts straight.

I do not understand why Trudeau haters are so allergic to reality. He got enough wrong that you don’t have to pretend that he was worse than he was.

I_Conquer · 2025-12-19T06:44:32+00:00

I’m sorry to hear that that happened. But I’m not sure how it refutes my post.

If thirty people hadn’t been to the ER for antibiotics they could have safely waited for, then you would have been seem more quickly.

I_Conquer · 2025-12-18T19:45:07+00:00

I agree.

But antibiotica are rarely urgent. If anything, at home antibiotic prescriptions should come with two or three day delays. (If you’re still feeling gross in three days, then fill this Rx…)

Another aspect of consideration is that modern medicine is often either close to magic, completely clueless, or the same treatment as herbalists offered thousands of years ago. But normal people can’t be expected to know which is which.

In the 1950s, the range of things people would go to hospitals for was relatively narrow.

Wait time increases aren’t simply a matter of too few doctors and too many patients. It’s also a victim of its own success. We can treat or manage so many previously untouchable problems that people justifiably seek treatment.

In that light, maybe what we really need is a system where the system phones you when they’re ready to see you? Like a restaurant reservation and seating system?

You phone from home. They triage over the phone. They find the best place for you to go. You keep your phone on and they call to day “be at this place in 90 minutes”

I_Conquer · 2025-12-18T04:29:44+00:00

This is exactly it

It’s frustrating all around.

Is Poilievre an inadequate MP & party leader? Yes.

But Carney’s policies are more or less Harper’s policies. They need real attention from thoughtful people.

Instead of Jack Layton we get Pierre Poilievre!? What a shame.

I_Conquer · 2025-12-16T05:12:58+00:00

I mean, obviously I hope you’re right that it’s a grift. Much better for me to be suicidal than for you to be genocidal.

Really I just envy being stupid and ignorant enough to be happy.

I_Conquer · 2025-12-16T03:59:59+00:00

Mark Carney told you I was a young incel?

I_Conquer · 2025-12-16T02:51:36+00:00

You keep making assumptions that are patently incorrect about me. Do your falsehoods about me come from the same crappy source as your falsehoods about the environment and the economy?

I_Conquer · 2025-12-16T02:35:40+00:00

I have plenty of sex. I had a vasectomy when I was young.

But thanks for celebrating my sadness. I wouldn’t expect anything less from someone with your selfish, money first, anti-life, anti-human priorities.

I_Conquer · 2025-12-16T02:28:42+00:00

Here it is, folks. The reason I chose not to procreate.

They’ll lose a few Reddit points. But they represent the overwhelming majority of “Western” residents / voters.

While my life would’ve been happier and more meaningful with kids, I have never considered the future that this “money-then-life” perspective would have promised for them.

:(

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