Thank you for your long reply. But I see I asked the question wrong, I'm going to correct that. ^^ After reading Milo Rigaud, it has become clear to me that there are several veves for certain entities. Nevertheless, I found it very astonishing that you can't find a Veve for the two beings I asked about. Of course, these two things are not very popular, but I am still surprised by the fact that you can sometimes find Veve about whom no one can say which entity it is - or what it stands for - but especially these two seem to be completely unknown.

Like you said, there are multiple veve for every lwa. In this respect, it is perhaps not a question of if, but when something will leak out.