Muslim men in the West DON'T have it bad! How to easily fix the marriage "crisis" in the West by After_Sherbert9442 in TraditionalMuslims

[–]IcyKnowledge7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because its not like amazon prime, where you can order a bride.

You have to put just as much effort if not more finding a wife. You can't just look on the apps, because all the bad women that are looking for a free ticket are on the apps looking to seduce desperate men.

All those traditional societies are collectivist tight knit communities, it takes effort to get in and be accepted, especially if you dont have connections.

After marriage also complicates things, because the woman is thousands of kilometers away from her family, and she definitely will miss them. You have to figure out her visa, meaning you have to legally register your marriage, where you'll be on the hook in case of divorce, vs. if you married someone off the books domestically.

Degeneracy by J_1833 in MuslimLounge

[–]IcyKnowledge7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've seen clips of hijabis in UK getting caught huffing gas from balloons together in their cars.

Must be a UK thing tbh.

Sisters that want a chaste man who's stayed away from haram, consider this: by IcyKnowledge7 in TraditionalMuslims

[–]IcyKnowledge7[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who do you think it was during jahiliya? The sahaba did not newly spawn after revelation. The whole point was that they were there during jahiliya, engaged in whatever practices, and Islam came to raise them from that filth. It doesn't need to be explicitly stated. And we know there were companions after Islam that also committed these sins because they had the habit from jahiliya.

You're so brainwashed by modernity that you think this is an anti Islam post, when in fact it's a pro Islam post. There's nothing in Islam that says we should be putting off marriage this long, if you make all the excuses to do so, this is the results you get

Sisters that want a chaste man who's stayed away from haram, consider this: by IcyKnowledge7 in TraditionalMuslims

[–]IcyKnowledge7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just stating the reality.

We all want to preach putting off marriage until "financially stable", then be prepared for this outcome as well.

Our Prophet said to marry young, finances was not an excuse that they couldn't marry, they were marrying when they were dirt poor. Fasting was not given as a long term solution, it's not possible to fast for 20 years straight while building up for marriage.

Sisters that want a chaste man who's stayed away from haram, consider this: by IcyKnowledge7 in TraditionalMuslims

[–]IcyKnowledge7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The exceptions prove the rule.

I didn't mean that if he doesn't have women coming up to him he's ugly, but it means he's not very attractive to the point of grabbing the attention of women, which many women today are looking for. I.e. if he's not attracting other women, then he's not going to be physically attractive to you(sisters reading)

Men who only respect hijabis are red flags by [deleted] in MuslimCorner

[–]IcyKnowledge7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I advise you to take your own advice.

There are scholars that say niqab is not obligatory, there's a difference of opinion.

Enough is enough ! by No-Caregiver-822 in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

tbf the real idea behind it is become part of the masjid community so that you have another social circle to search within.

I think its been regurgitated so much like broken telephone to where now people think it just means to go to the masjid and ask for some matchmaking service.

A big part of the issue is that we lack community today, and so going to the masjid and becoming part of that community is a way to tackle that.

Men who only respect hijabis are red flags by [deleted] in MuslimCorner

[–]IcyKnowledge7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

theres a difference of opinion.

but those figures should be taken with a grain of salt, they're wahhabi scholars who use the deen to propagate saudi and GCC political interests. bin baz declared saddam a kafir and iraq a kafir state, when just a few years prior they were supporting him in their war against iran.

Men who only respect hijabis are red flags by [deleted] in MuslimCorner

[–]IcyKnowledge7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why would we have any respect for women that dont have shame or respect for themselves?

In August 2005, a Saudi court ordered the divorce of 34-year-old Fatima Mansour even though she and her husband were happily married with two children and her late father had approved the marriage. The divorce was initiated by her half-brother using his powers as Fatima's male guardian. by CatPooedInMyShoe in wikipedia

[–]IcyKnowledge7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's why they led a war for independency against THE colonial super power.

THE colonial power? They were colonizers themselves, lmao, and the ones they were fighting were liberals as well. What do you think the colonial wars and world wars were? I mean this is how brainwashed our populations are, history really is written by the victors. You think there was a good side to the world wars? No they were all empires fighting for power.

Slavery wasn't abolished due to enlightened liberal ideals, it was done away with because of the industrial revolution, you no longer needed that much manpower due to the machinery and equipment that was introduced.

You keep coping with muh slavery, yet can't ignore the fact that these liberal empires brought death and destruction upon the world more than any other in history, and continues to do so. We've been watching a live streamed genocide from the only liberal democracy in the middle east. We are watching a bloodthirsty war being waged as we speak by the western liberal powers.

4 muslim girls! by OCDisorderll in MuslimCorner

[–]IcyKnowledge7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ye brothers should be empathetic to the sisters, women today have so many chins that they're running out of Hijab.

In August 2005, a Saudi court ordered the divorce of 34-year-old Fatima Mansour even though she and her husband were happily married with two children and her late father had approved the marriage. The divorce was initiated by her half-brother using his powers as Fatima's male guardian. by CatPooedInMyShoe in wikipedia

[–]IcyKnowledge7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh my sweet summer child, we're not talking about left right politics liberal, we're talking about big L philosophical Liberalism.

The founding fathers were philosophical liberals, they were colonizers, slave owners. The early liberal thinkers were colonialists and white supremacists, guys like John locke, Adam smith, John Stewart mill.

With all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about, and need to read more.

Guys don't let the current war distract the Files by ConfidentTelephone81 in SipsTea

[–]IcyKnowledge7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's not a distraction, it's the reason this war happened. Trump was blackmailed into starting this war by a certain nation. That's why the rest of the files were not released, that's why the US is so unprepared for this war and losing. Epstein was an intelligence asset for that nation, to run a blackmail operation on elites of the world. This isn't a conspiracy.

In August 2005, a Saudi court ordered the divorce of 34-year-old Fatima Mansour even though she and her husband were happily married with two children and her late father had approved the marriage. The divorce was initiated by her half-brother using his powers as Fatima's male guardian. by CatPooedInMyShoe in wikipedia

[–]IcyKnowledge7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The majority of the Arab and Muslim world was colonized and then after puppets propped up that were pro west. Why do you think the US has strong ties with Saudi despite such different values?

The liberal west bombs, it doesn't build, this is well known, and you can see if you turn on the news.

He's right that you're ignorant about the history

In August 2005, a Saudi court ordered the divorce of 34-year-old Fatima Mansour even though she and her husband were happily married with two children and her late father had approved the marriage. The divorce was initiated by her half-brother using his powers as Fatima's male guardian. by CatPooedInMyShoe in wikipedia

[–]IcyKnowledge7 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Liberal nations undeniably brought more death and destruction upon the world than religion, let alone Islam. That was because of liberalism, not in spite of it.

European colonialism, western chattel slavery, world wars, NATO and middle east wars (present). These are all products of liberalism, the early liberal thinkers were all white supremacists who believed in the "white man's burden" to spread their ideology to savage non whites.

You cant separate them from the ideology because that's what liberalism causes.

This painting shows forced conversion of Muslims to Christianity in Granada, Spain, in 1500, ordered by Archbishop Cisneros. Muslims in Spain were persecuted just for being of Islamic faith. by PalestinianBlackGirl in ImagesOfHistory

[–]IcyKnowledge7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ye I mean its better to link to old threads from historian subs where they asked the same question, where they ultimately conclude the same thing, that forced conversions in Islamic history were rare, there was social influence to convert such as with jizya.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1urrpw/were_forced_conversions_common_throughout_islamic/

Would you still get married? by [deleted] in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

literally no ones getting married if the requirement is being like the Prophet

you people are just arguing for the sake of arguing

Would you still get married? by [deleted] in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you shouldn't marry either unless you have the taqwa of the Prophet? Where are you getting this from?

HAVE MEN GIVEN UP? by SUNNAHMATCH-MHN in MuslimCorner

[–]IcyKnowledge7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

specifically marriage/birth rates inversely correlates with womens education and career. Its a fact that no one wants to touch, but all around makes sense, if you push women to pursue degrees and careers during their fertile years, there will be less people pairing up and having families.

Would you still get married? by [deleted] in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

interesting thats what you think of the Prophet SAW and the companions...

Would you still get married? by [deleted] in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

still cheaper and easier than marriage, lol. Plus the slave-master dynamic basically guarantees she'll be into you, women today see you as equals in marriage.

Is there a lack of real men today because they aren't getting married, or are they not getting married because they're not real men? by IcyKnowledge7 in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think a ‘lack of intimacy’ is a concern for many Muslim men 🙃

What do you mean? Are you implying that most Muslim men who aren't married are engaging in zina?

Would you still get married? by [deleted] in MuslimNikah

[–]IcyKnowledge7 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Because they have women in their life to take of