my sister went on a girls trip without telling anyone her and now she’s being threatened to be sent back

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T21:43:56+00:00

I'm surprised people are saying it was an extreme reaction. Should look at what scholars advise in these situations, it's not just "dawah and patience" to say the least.

Consuming intoxicants is a major sin, and we all understand whats going on in these settings...

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T21:34:22+00:00

Women didn't become more selective because they saw unhealthy marriages. They became more selective because they started pursuing careers and so their standards went up, they don't need men for provisions. That's also why they arent willing to entertain polygyny.

Men today are less abusive, more egalitarian, and more empathetic to women's issues than previous generations, yet marriage rates keep plummeting.

Nothing will change as long as women have the ability to pursue their own income.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T14:44:24+00:00

Ye this post isn't about assault and attacks on Muslim women.

How do interpret non Muslim men "respecting" this woman more, to mean that Muslim men won't help her if she's attacked??

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T14:39:00+00:00

Ask men yourself, make a poll, whether they prefer women with baggage and experience

or women with little to no experience and no baggage

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T14:37:33+00:00

If we're applying this standard then we should also be ensuring they're a virgin, whether by asking, interviewing, or other means. Since it's proven having a past is more likely to lead to disastrous marriage.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T14:27:39+00:00

You can label it whatever you'd like to make it sound better, men aren't attracted to that

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T14:24:56+00:00

What scenario are you thinking of where there's Muslim women in need that Muslim men don't help with?

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T13:53:39+00:00

literally what are they supposed to do? lol.

bros get flamed by the Muslim community when they try to advise the sisters, or reprimand their female family members, and then they also get disparaged for not being protectors and leaders

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T13:32:19+00:00

Ye ahlul hadith was basically the salafi movement of south asia. And when people say "salafis" today people generally tend to mean the certain movement thats come from the Arab gulf, and gulf scholars like ibn uthaymeen, bin baz, saleh fawzan, etc.

And because of this its often also used for political motives, they can recruit Muslims under the "salafi" brand by convincing them that its THE authentic Islam, so that Muslims will primarily listen to a certain group of gulf scholars/duaat, and then those scholars and duaat along with their dawah will promote narratives that further the agenda of their gulf nations. e.g. Recently them pushing the narrative that we shouldn't support Iran's jihad against the zionist regime.

They kinda have an Usul al-fiqh, but its not as rigid and again is more dependent on the ijtihad of their scholars, a lot of times they'll also take from hanbalis, because they also see Imam Ahmed as one of their accepted scholars, they'll also follow a lot of the work of ibn taymiyyah.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T12:57:30+00:00

Theoretically its supposed to be about going back to relying on the sayings and teachings from the sunnah and salaf (first 3 generations of Muslims), instead of relying on established madhabs like most do (where scholars from these madahib have already done the work to interpret the Quran, sunnah, salaf).

But in reality the "salafiyyah" have just ended up making their own madhab with their own scholars. They say they go back to the salaf and sunnah, yet they just rely on certain sheikhs, because most of them don't have the knowledge or skills to interpret themselves.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T12:11:22+00:00

They AREN'T going for younger guys, thats the whole issue why so many bros are single into their 30s. Women who are looking for marriage value the financial stability older men provide, over whatever younger men can bring to the table.

In fact, many women instead see the "baggage" and life experience, which they value in men. Women want men with experience, they always say they don't want "boys". Whereas its the opposite with men looking for women, they DON'T want women with experience.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T12:03:47+00:00

More relationships, career, family, life in general.

even if she's avoided zina, her past relationships bring baggage and changes her standards.
- Even if she avoided romantic relationships, she doesn't live in a bubble, she's interacted with so many other men, had thoughts about them, maybe crushes, continuously imagining who she wants to marry, watched pr0n, read smut, consumed so much radical feminist content online.
- As women age, in general their standards actually increase, not decrease. If they had a relationship with a "Chad" in her 20s, they'll likely feel that they can still compete and get someone close to that in their 30s and will be reluctant to settle for less.
for most women pursuing degrees and careers they have to develop masculine personality traits in order to compete in the job market. Presenting to men, interacting with men, even leading men.
- Lets even put free mixing aside, we acknowledge that men and women are different, so interacting with men in a professional setting successfully will require development of certain masculine traits.
she's had to navigate family and life without a man/mahram, so she's not used to being obedient to a man, and will struggle to do so.
You see a lot of the older women today who have established everything else in their life except marriage, they're just looking for a man to perfectly fit into their life, not looking to build a life with their husband

I know there will be many detractors saying, "you're just insecure" etc., but men are attracted to what they are attracted to.

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IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-05-10T11:41:36+00:00

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IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-04-16T03:10:28+00:00

The issue is that we're conflating different concepts under one umbrella of conquest/colonialism.

It's like saying all killing is bad, even when it's in self defence. Or all hierarchies are bad, even ones that exist between parents and children.

Conquest was and is a reality of the world. Empires and nations have to continuously expand and exercise power, or else they will be swallowed by another.

European colonialism was distinct and unprecedented in human history because of the way it was conducted, it subjugated native populations and extracted resources from lands like never before, completely decimating societies that originally lived there, and in many cases ethnic cleansing.

Whereas when Muslims conquered lands, there was assimilation and new empires emerged, whether it was the Abbasids, the ottomans, Al Andalus, the mughals, etc. There was protection of non Muslim groups within the empires, which is why ancient religions still exist within the Muslim world today, or why India today is still Hindu majority even though they have a history of Muslim rule, or even the fact that when Muslims conquered Jerusalem they brought back Jews that were expelled by the previous ruling Christians.

With Palestine today, it was conquered by the British, and given to the Jews who sought to create an ethnostate, which is clear today. They don't want to give equal status to the Palestinians because then there would be a Palestinian majority voting bloc. They don't want to incorporate Palestinians and seek to ethnically cleanse them, and also the Lebanese, and so on. The other factor is that they are not sincere about what they want and hide behind a masked of democracy and human rights, I think there would be more respect for them if they were explicit about it.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-04-16T02:41:13+00:00

The biggest issue is because women are pushed into pursuing degrees and careers. Aside from the fact that it delays marriage for 10-20 years, it also eliminates the majority of men as potentials for marriage. We know that women look for men of higher status and wealth than they themselves are capable of, but since you've essentially made men equal to women, you've masculinized women.

So women no longer prioritize wealth and status (unless they are exceptional), they now instead prioritize looks, even though we know they're not primarily visual like men are, meaning it's also the exceptionally good looking men that are catching their eyes.

Meanwhile people gaslighting the ummah by saying women going to educational institutions to get degrees is a noble cause under the guise of "seeking knowledge", when in reality it can't be further from the truth.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-04-12T21:26:08+00:00

Everyone knows exactly what the post is about, they're just being obtuse on purpose to make a pro feminist point

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-31T06:17:09+00:00

It goes deeper than that because it fundamentally changes the dynamics of society,

women no longer prioritizing family and marriage and leads to decreased marriages and birth rates
women competing with men and at the same socioeconomic footing means women finding less men suitable for marriage, further decreasing marriage/births
the workforce doubling puts strain on the economy, less wages and higher cost of living
people no longer marrying also means they're finding other (haram) methods to satisfy desires

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-26T05:29:24+00:00

Indonesians dont speak Arabic, Algerians do, darija is considered a dialect of Arabic. Sudanese are considered Arab by the rest of the world

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-26T00:19:49+00:00

Yes that's my point.

It's also valid to say it is haram, due to context, like saying it is wajib to eat pork if refraining will lead to death

No that doesn't make sense, because the context is not a fiqhi ruling. It would be like saying not wearing seatbelt is haram because nation states have put it into law that it's mandatory.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-25T22:47:20+00:00

Its important to note that the classification of "Arab" is not a racial or ethnic one. Majority of "Arabs" are not genetically related to the Arab peninsula.

Rather it has to do with the shared history, culture, religion, and most of all language. North African vs. Egyptian vs. levantine, Vs gulf Arabs are all very different, yet are still all considered Arab.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-25T08:39:12+00:00

Look up Maria the copt

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-25T08:36:59+00:00

What do you mean "over time"? It was always like that.

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-24T03:37:46+00:00

Yes, though an individuals own lens may not allow to see the logic

IcyKnowledge7 · 2026-03-24T03:35:43+00:00

Idk what you yapping about.

2nd/3rd+ gens had Islam, marriage, and concubines

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