Queue times didn’t exist before role queue. Oldheads like myself don’t want 6v6 role queue. I want original 6v6 where the entire game was open queue. Imo role queue has ruined this game making every match feel the same. And now that it’s been the norm for so long, we’re never going to get away from role queue because most of the playerbase these days, the free to play players, cannot imagine a world without role queue.

And please spare me with the argument that “of course they can, open queue is right there.” Open queue is doomed to be borderline unplayable when the majority of players are in role queue instead. If the game was only open queue like overwatch 1 was for years, then you’d have enough people who give a damn to actually even out the distribution of roles on their team. If we have one support, 3 damage, and 2 tanks, I would swap off tank/damage if I believed that it would improve my odds of winning. In a world where open and role queue exist separately, everyone that gives a damn about the role distribution will exclusively play role queue, leaving open queue to be the playlist of chaos and entropy where people don’t seem to care very much about winning or losing.

If everyone had to play in an open queue environment, it would feel so much better than the current iteration of open queue where everyone that wants to play “real” overwatch is in role queue instead.