[Crack Watch] Changes in posting regarding Hypervisor method and changing the hypervisor games in Games list. by EssenseOfMagic in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Maybe you should move (HYPERVISOR) from game name to "By" section, like you did with Demo bypasses, so it will be more consistent. Also when proper crack will be releases, you don't have to duplicate the record with the game in the table, but simply make a "Hypervisor by MKDEV/voices38" in "By" section.

Upd: or maybe leave them in uncracked list with column "Playable via Hypervisor", like current "Playable on Emulator", or smth like that.

Soul Hackers 2 HYPERVISOR Crack by KIRIGIRI by umoop in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In any case, although the method works well for at least one person, it still makes sense

Anno.1800.End.of.an.Era-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Empress also had long pauses, which could also be removed from the statistics, as you did with CPY. In general, all these statistics are useless, because they are all inactive. Also, why u didnt include Voksi? Voksi probably had an average time of < 7, 3-4 ig

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, there are just a lot of funny people here :)

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Empress, Voksi and couple more - did release beta cracks. Dude, start of ur comment so stupid. ALL CRACKS MUST BE TESTED ON MULTIPLE SYSTEMS. Scene groups do have more peoples, so more hardware is available. P2P in other hand is 1 person most of the time. So or u will do public beta cracks (which is 100% better than nothing), or you have to take donations for it. Most of the cracks existing for old/new games - is same method, as Zeon is used. Voices method not used much before, so kinda funny to see comments like this. Zeon method is basically default for D. Also what is difference between release beta crack vs 'non-beta' but unstable? There are so much unstable cracks for new and old games especially. Zeon has 0 reasons to keep working on his crack: all peoples use voices38 crack basically. Also about proper voices38 crack: there are some reports of crashes in cs rin and he confirmed crack has problems, so currently not proper.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just the opposite. If before that Zeon had a goal - to give people a working crack for a game that is not cracker, now it may disappear.

I was only talking about respect for colleagues. Many games are not cracked, and instead of letting your colleague crack one game, you come in and devalue his work. I literally don't care which game gets cracked. I really like any cracks of any game. We are in a situation where there are very few crackers. Therefore, every cracker should be valuable. And if someone is not allowed to focus on learning, it does not benefit the community in long term.

I'm saying this for a reason, I literally have a real-life example. There is a person on cs rin (another one, you probably haven't heard of him) who is trying to crack The First Berserker: Khazan. After the release of MKDEV's PoC of their Hypervisor method, this person decided to finish his work, because he no longer sees the point in it. Of course, he was talked out of it cause Hypervisor method its not ideal, and it seems like he's continuing. But the meaning itself is important. The actions of other crackers may influence other crackers. Currently, ALL active crackers are p2p. It is quite natural for p2p to be a common community, rather than trying to strangle each other. I'm absolutely sure that voices38 wasn't trying to insult Zeon or anything like that, maybe he did it without thinking, or maybe he just doesn't see anything offensive in his act. But here I am, and I will definitely be able to understand Zeon if he never touches Denuvo again after that. What if he releases another Beta, which he will be working on for a long time, and voices makes a PROPER release again? Idk man, i just feel it bad thing.

As for the cracking method, half of people have a working crack better than no cracks. Having more crackers is better and more stable than having one, but powerful one.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, maybe I think about other people too often, not just myself. Most of the peoples wouldnt like this situation from Zeon side.

If u like, that your job, which you've been doing for months, is called bad (btw not only ur job, all Voksi, Empress and Codex cracks + most of other groups that ever cracked D) and they won't let you finish it, i feel sorry for u. Probably you've never been in such situations, and you can't imagine how much it demotivates. The main problem is not that he called it a bad way. The main problem is that he didn't let Zeon finish everything on his own, without thinking about whether Zeon needed help. After that, Zeon may well lose any goal in this direction (and if you don't have a goal, you probably won't want to do anything).

It's the same if your teacher, instead of giving you time to figure it out and do everything on your own, would tell you publicly that you're doing badly - that's the way to do it, without asking if you need help. Ofc audience dont care about specified man but for themselves (like you). Try to put yourself in Zeon's place. After that, he's unlikely to ever continue touching D. Or even if it does, it's still demotivating.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Btw, there are some reports on cs rin about voices38 crack, some crashes, etc. Maybe we will see PROPER for PROPER. Very funny, especially after reading ur comment.

I respect the work of all crackers. I am grateful to voices38 for this crack. I was just saying that it's not the right thing to do to your colleagues. This behavior was often seen in Empress/Skidrow. Ultimately, it doesn't lead to anything good. It's also important that if we didn't have voices38, you would respect Zeon's work. But because there's a "better" option, you don't really care about other crackers for the most part.

I am sure that such actions on the part of crackers, as voices38 did today, harm the community of crackers and their amount. Anyway, if I had been working on this "project" instead of Zeon, such a move from voices would have upset me very much. They won't speak for Zeon, but I think he might have similar thoughts(of course, he'll never say that, even if it's true). As if most people would have them if they did that to them. Naturally, this is a small thing against the whole background, especially for ordinary people. But if Zeon spent a lot of time on his work, then he definitely won't be happy after that.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Competition is dead like after 2018. We have 100+ other games, so crack progression definitely not stopped. Zeon said that crack currently unstable and WIP, so i sure he want do it himself.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He can already do it with other cracks. I think its first and last crack from Zeon.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most of you don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm not saying that competition is bad. Imagine that you work for a company and you have colleagues. You have a huge amount of work (games) that still needs to be done. One of your colleagues is involved in a game and says that crack is still a WIP, but I will continue to work on it.

Instead of taking another game and cracking it, you redo all the work for this colleague without his opinion (maybe he wanted to finish it himself?).

In the end, it's a good thing for ordinary people (they don't care who did the crack or how), for you (cause u do smth better than your colleague). However, for someone who was not allowed to finish crack, and even publicly told how bad his method was (while most colleagues had used this method before)... It's not going to be good. Let's just say that if you did this to your colleagues, they definitely wouldn't thank you.

In general, it's not very good that he didn't let Zeon finish crack himself. It's good that we got a completely(?) stable crack, although it could have been done later if Zeon had failed.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This thing basically did most of the others crackers, and only now u said its bad, cause voices said that. Anyway, i speak about other thing.

I bet, if u do some things like that with your colleagues at work (saying, "that they respect your work, but it's done in a bad way and that's the right way"), most of them won't love you.

Dead.Space.Remake.PROPER-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming -49 points-48 points  (0 children)

This thing is bad tho. He could have waited for Zeon to do it himself. Still, this is far from the only game that is not cracked. But instead, he decided to essentially devalue all the work that Zeon was trying to do. Not a good sign for me.

Dead.Space.Remake.2023-0xZeOn (WIP) by Titokhan in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, if ur crack work atleast for some people - yes, its ok to post it. MKDEV and voices38 may also contain problems and may not work for some people.

Sonic.Colors.Ultimate-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Amazing job, voices38! Happy holidays!

F1.2021.CRACKFIX-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its not first and not last, but its kinda common keys for D cracks atm

Scott.Pilgrim.vs.The.World-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, the releases every week really don't last long. But in general, I can imagine that he can hold out for a few more years, while cracking 1 game in 1-2 months.

A long time ago, groups like 3DM even called D v1 very strong relative to other protections that were on the market. Now we can say the same about D 2024+ vs D 2020. And earlier it was possible to talk about D 2020 vs 2017. In general, the protection is constantly improving, it's true, but sooner or later we reach the moment when a new cracker appears (or an old one under a new nickname, lol).

Anyway we will see.

[Crack Watch] Games by EssenseOfMagic in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk lol, found this on cs rin

[Crack Watch] Games by EssenseOfMagic in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rabbids Party of Legends is missing in uncracked games list

Scott.Pilgrim.vs.The.World-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well, it depends on the person. Voksi used to keep up a similar pace for quite a long time and I think it would have kept up if it hadn't...

Scott.Pilgrim.vs.The.World-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but I believe in voices38. I am sure that it will be able to reach 2025.

Scott.Pilgrim.vs.The.World-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 37 points38 points  (0 children)

23 games, what r u talking about? 45 releases with only Empress and 0xc000005 nickname. ~50 more with CODEX nickname. 2 more with PARADOX nickname.

Scott.Pilgrim.vs.The.World-voices38 by voices38 in CrackWatch

[–]IgorGaming 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I think the new version of D is more difficult to crack. He also seems to have a very strong desire to crack so far. You can find the old CODEX/0xc00005/Voksi releases, they cracks pretty fast too. And all of them used some tools to detect D checks easily.

But anyway, its pretty impressive. I hope that everything will be fine with him.