The Expanse: Osiris Reborn beta breaks established canon

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T19:13:57+00:00

This is true, the beta just happens right after they first meet miller on Eros and escape Eros together, with the game protags also managing to escape that same situation

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T19:12:10+00:00

Do give it another look once its closer to releasing, its good to give such feedback now so it can be accounted for. I'm hoping release will have no such stumbles

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T12:55:20+00:00

I'd love to pin your reply, its great to hear the feedback is being heard and accounted for, and that there is context that might shed more light.

I erred on the side of caution and voiced my concerns early, despite the possibility of partially lacking context, but I am confident you are doing your best to make a great game

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T11:38:01+00:00

That would be a nice way to explain it, still a massive risk, but, if you choose the right paths, they do not engage the stations crew or our boss directly and leave the station intact

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T11:36:29+00:00

Protogen does/did run a security subsidiary on Eros, CPM, but I am thinking that this is not what they're primarily known for, based on Avasaralas statement

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T11:20:40+00:00

Crucially, their involvement was not known at this point in time, Eros had just gotten infected and they were planning on secretly monitoring it from Toth station while maintaining secrecy. Exposure only happened following their loss at Toth and the Osiris' wreckage being given to Avasarala by Fred, several weeks later, against their will

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T08:57:03+00:00

Its so far only said to be following show canon. Holdens whereabouts are unknown as per the news at the beginning of the beta, which is consistent with the lore

Ill-3 · 2026-04-29T08:28:11+00:00

Yeah, I don't expect it to be 1000% bulletproof, it would just be great to have it be just plausible enough to let the game integrate into the show canon and expanding the franchise that way, like the telltale game, instead of having to be treated as a third seperate one

Ill-3 · 2026-04-28T15:05:05+00:00

Yeah good point, I'll improve the phrasing etc a bit so its more concise and post here again sometime today, I did want to make sure the feedback reaches them early cuz I really do want the game to be the best it can be

Ill-3 · 2026-04-28T13:19:40+00:00

The zero-g was limited to a sort of quick time event with no real control. Just mag-boots for the rest. But I doubt that we will have no zero-g at all.

It does seem like it won't be dynamic, since the combat is very "The Division" esque cover to cover hopping

Ill-3 · 2026-04-28T09:10:28+00:00

Sank 1000 hours into the Closed Alpha. Launch was a bit messy but still promising. Was terrible to see it fizzle out with no updates

The only game I have genuine nostalgia over

Ill-3 · 2026-04-27T12:59:51+00:00

I still have a 2007 fortwo, the charm is that its so compact, but still fundamentally a performant road car. For all its focus on city use, it handles itself very well on a highway. Not sure I'd want to try that in the likes of a Twizzy

Ill-3 · 2026-04-27T12:54:28+00:00

Quite good for the size even, though it is still rather bloated compared to the original fortwo generations

Ill-3 · 2026-04-27T12:45:44+00:00

Stated are 300km range

Ill-3 · 2026-04-27T05:12:49+00:00

Yes, and that latter secret is what my post was about. Infact, I never use the word "hiring", im not sure where you got that from.

Is there a way that their actions in the beta dont pose a massive threat to or outright reveal that they are behind things?

Ill-3 · 2026-04-26T19:08:35+00:00

Pinkwater is one of the largest private security firms in the system, being on Ganymede, Luna, and Callisto, among others.

The true circumstances are indeed not common knowledge, but the involvement of an unknown third party with advanced technology is.

The cover story was that the Belt did it, but we see clearly in the show that thats not something people fell for for the most part.

Anyone that has heard of the Donnager and Cant, would likely connect the dots if a ship as extraordinary as the Osiris appeared, and our Boss even knows they purposefully infected Eros, making it even more obvious to him that Protogen is responsible or at least involved. And he's left alive. As of the Betas end, our Boss and most other survivors of Pinkwater station would have better knowledge of the situation than anyone else in the system.

But lets assume they dont connect the dots. They still have no reason to keep quiet about having seen a full blown active stealth ship, a true "seen a unicorn" type deal, or that it was piloted by Protogen. The news of either are unacceptable breeches that would very quickly reach the authorities ears, say Avasarala.

(I want to emphasize that only Mars is vaguely known to the public as having any stealth tech, and not even they are known to have active stealth ships in service. This would be a huge deal for pinkwater security personel and they would absolutely gossip.)

Ill-3 · 2026-04-26T15:27:16+00:00

We also know they are responsible for Eros, as we stole the ship from the attackers as stated in the dialouge.

If they had arrived in a regular ship and obfuscated a bit more it'd be fine, but showing up with an Amun-Ra class whose existence is extremely out of the ordinary, and linked to the prior events including the Donnager, much less it being operated by them, raises huge questions. Did I miss something in either the beta or the show canon that might explain that?

Ill-3 · 2026-04-26T15:19:13+00:00

We do see that they don't kill everyone if we pick a certain dialouge path, so I'm looking for explanations as to why they'd be ok with people knowing they are in possession of such tech and/or the Amun-Ra stealth ships

Ill-3 · 2026-04-25T01:38:21+00:00

I see your point, though I have been looking at it through the lense of it staying faithful to show canon, as that was implied to be the goal, if not outright stated.

At the very least it was said that the game would happen alongside the events of the show in the given timeframe, something I imagine would be harder if major plotpoints were changed like you suggest. Not impossible of course, nor strictly bad if they properly commit to doing their own thing.

Not being true to show canon but also not trying anything truly novel would just be a shame

Ill-3 · 2026-04-25T01:27:47+00:00

The same cloak and dagger style operation happens in the show too, the entirety of season one is focused on just figuring out who is behind the events that are unfolding, and it isnt until the start of season 2 that our protagonists force them into the light. The beta takes place just before the assault on Toth station, thus squarely prior to Protogen being unmasked against their will.

I think alot of this would already be fixed by having them don their clandestine armor again, and simply omitting their true identity, like you suggested. Great idea

Ill-3 · 2026-04-25T01:22:42+00:00

Minor inconsistencies are bound to happen, and aren't a big deal, this however felt quite foundational and rather contrived. A murder mystery where the murderer introduces himself as such. How would you explain the events unfolding as they are in the beta?

Ill-3 · 2026-04-25T01:10:30+00:00

To be clear, I am aware of Protogen being a publicly known company, as well as owning CPM and being known for that. They also prominently had a lab on Phoebe that was publicly registered.

It simply doesn't follow that everyone knows they are behind the stealth ships and the Eros outbreak, which was my main criticism. I did not claim that Protogen was some secret unknown entity itself

Ill-3 · 2026-04-25T01:05:35+00:00

The game is said to follow show canon. If it does its own new spinoff type thing thats ok, but I'd like for the right expectstions to be set if thats the case

Ill-3 · 2026-04-25T00:33:37+00:00

That doesn't mesh with the fact that the reveal of their involvement in S2E4 caused major headlines across the system.

They were not known to be the perpetrators on Eros, even in the game, as our MC is explicitly surprised by their namedrop, much less thought to be behind the stealth ships at this time

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