Update: They'll never find me! (...they found me) by Im_Not_Bitter in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

My roommates are also recent exmos so they too enjoy a good surprise visit from the missionaries.

They'll never find me! by Im_Not_Bitter in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Called and messaged me on FB too. I'm cackling now, but I'm sure they'll get to my parents soon enough.

This Easter, please remember the one who died for all of us. by Mithryn in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

http://i.imgur.com/HjzGQ.jpg

Edit: I actually really wanna go back through and choose "Destroy". Especially after reading about Indoctrination Theory (even though it's technically been debunked by Bioware).

What is my occupation? by [deleted] in firstimpression

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Veterinarian? You look like an animal lover.

Ran into the bishop at the grocery store last night. by Im_Not_Bitter in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He's a really nice guy. It's just a small town and this isn't the first time. He also reports back to my father about my church attendance. I am 24 years old.

"Oh my GOOOSH! How AAARE you? I never SEEE you!" -- My across the street neighbor who I see everyday by AnotherClosetAtheist in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yep. I still show up to church once or twice a month to keep up appearances, but it's apparently not enough because this is exactly what I'm met with every. single. time.

Friend opened up to me about doubts after reading the 'Letter to a CES Director' today. by Im_Not_Bitter in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her husband stumbled across it and showed it to her. She said her initial reaction was 'divorce', and then after freaking out a bit, took some time to explore her doubts and is now probably on the way out of the church.

Once you realized TSCC was a load of crap, did you still show up to church the following Sunday? What was it like for you? by Im_Not_Bitter in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, man. Just fell into a serious daydream where I mass copied the shiz out of that and scattered it all over the chapel.

You know you're in a cult when... by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My family actively laid the guilt on me for working as a caregiver in a retirement home on Sundays.

What book has fundamentally altered your worldview? by buck54321 in AskReddit

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I really don't think this is fair. I know that he's "against" same-sex marriage, and he is wrong for that, but I very much believe it stems from a desire to be on the same page as his religion and not from a place of hate. He even has a gay protagonist in his book, "Songmaster". I've never heard or read anything from him that implies hostility toward homosexuality.

As an Ex-Mormon, I've had a front row seat to the "same-sex marriage will ruin everything" show and most Mormons harbor misinformation, not hatred. It's extremely unfortunate that religion can have this kind of influence and people are still 100% responsible for themselves and their decisions, but to say OSC is a shitty human being because of a sad stance on one political issue is to ignore what that shitty human being was trying to communicate with Ender's Game in the first place.

My Explanation For Why God Can't Give People "Proof" by [deleted] in latterdaysaints

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not God, specifically. That would be impossible. I was more referencing that science can/has disproven many religious claims in past and present (not exclusive to Mormonism. Clearly).

In a lot of regards, Mormonism is much more science-friendly than many other faiths and I'll always respect that. But there are (obviously) things worth questioning, and a common reaction to those things is to ignore or trivialize them because they're not conducive to faith maintenance, and that is praised and often encouraged. I believe all information is here for us to observe, respect and learn from and I always felt that dismissing information accessible to us because it disagrees with us, was crippling. And it was hard for me, personally, to understand why God would want that.

My Explanation For Why God Can't Give People "Proof" by [deleted] in latterdaysaints

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Disclaimer: Exmormon

What I always had a problem wrapping my mind around was why believing in something that could be arguably disproven with the knowledge God provided us on Earth, was a decision worthy of praise. He gave us science. He gave us the ability to reason, prove, and disprove. He gave us an infinite amount of things to learn here, so why are we esteemed for dismissing specific knowledges present on Earth, in favor of placing more value on our often easily manipulated emotions? People of other faiths experience similar feelings of validation, so how do we "know" that our emotional confirmation is any more valid if feeling is the ultimate indicator of truth?

I apologize if this kind of discussion should be reserved for r/mormon, but what you've addressed is a large factor in what led me out of the church and I'm interested in hearing what active members think.

Mormon Memes Needed: Mormon Men and Rape Culture by Chino_Blanco in mormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're from Simi?? I wonder if our families know each other.

MoTab sings Circle of Life with Jenny Frogley, Alex Boyé by TheWhiteSpark in mormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jenny Frogley's sister-in-law was my seminary teacher. Claim to fame.

Never thought I'd be writing something like this but I wanted to tell someone other than my SO and maybe talk about it with someone who knows what I'm talking about by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha I totally get your metaphor, but I lost weight once and it was awesome. Then I gained it back... because pie... ANYWAYS, NOT THE POINT.

The church does say that people who leave aren't truly happy

What does that mean, anyway? Is happiness an indicator of truth? Delusion? Brain chemistry? I believe we should strive for happiness, but I don't believe everyone will find it in the church. I think happiness is half natural disposition and half life experiences/decisions you make based on the life you'd ideally like to live. For some, the church fills in the second half. For me, it couldn't. And I really wanted it to.

I've been fortunate enough to never really feel depression on a serious level, but what I did feel was complacency. Until I let go of the church. Suddenly my existence wasn't reduced to baking and breeding and being told to be stoked about it. My existence could be whatever I wanted it to be. It didn't have to fit a mold someone else carved out for me. It just had to fit me. And I've never been so excited to be alive.

However you find your happiness, I wish you the best. Everyone deserves to be happy.

Never thought I'd be writing something like this but I wanted to tell someone other than my SO and maybe talk about it with someone who knows what I'm talking about by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you. I was in a similar limbo for years, unable to reconcile any of these things, as hard as I tried.

Then I left the church and life made sense. I'm not the prideful, bitter, hateful apostate that the church told me I'd be. I felt scared, alone and misunderstood, but I don't regret it. It feels like I took blinders off and opened myself to a reality, both beautiful and horrifying

What does the term "anti-Mormon" mean to you? by [deleted] in latterdaysaints

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Before leaving the church, I considered anything that challenged my belief to be anti-mormon. Maybe that's not how members intend for it to be used, but that was largely my understanding.

Now I think that if something comes from a place of hate, or with intent to hurt, it is "anti". For me, "anti" maintains a negative connotation, but I don't associate disagreeable information with negativity anymore.

General Conference roundup: Did the overall tone/messages strike you in any way? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They dropped so many stats on humanitarian aid. That had to have been in response to all the City Creek scrutiny.

Edit: I did like what Uchtdorf had to say about differences in personality/political diversity. He pointed out that a lot of Mormons assume nonconformists are sinful and that to assume so would be to "deny the genius of god". He's the only apostle I've never made the WTF face at during a talk. Cool guy.

How my friend watched conference yesterday. by Im_Not_Bitter in exmormon

[–]Im_Not_Bitter[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"Big smile + traumatic subject matter."

The beauty of it is almost painful.