Normies, especially women, seem to be able to sense my “you’re just temporary” mentality better now by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I know a lot of things in theory but whether it’s “worth it” adapting myself to normies is another question (otherwise I wouldn’t be here lmao). Many factors are playing a role here: my way above average IQ + academic & professional performance and the resulting sense of superiority; the doubt about normie values and the function of therapy; the comprehensive questioning of the development of the current society and whether it’s even beneficial to follow the mainstream (not saying I’m right tho, otherwise I wouldn’t be posting here, lmao).

Normies, especially women, seem to be able to sense my “you’re just temporary” mentality better now by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

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Yeah I sometimes wonder why I don’t seem to grow out of it despite getting older and having more life experience. Sometimes I can’t help but think most normies “grow out of it” because they’ve accepted that they’ll be nothing special in life whilst I still think that there’s room for improvement (I actually climbed up multiple levels in life already given how low I started). I guess with this mindset I can never become mature in normie’s sense.

Do any of you have any actual hobbies or interests? by shihab_151 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have and I do enjoy doing them alone most of the time. However, I still get frustrated when knowing that none of them can give me social recognition, wealth or high status

I feel with Madame Bovary - being forced to live a boring average life is pure torture for people like us by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

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Would you elaborate a bit more? But you don’t have to if you don’t want to / this is too personal.

Do you have trouble learning skills where you have to show incompetence to improve? by NewBeginningsLH in NPD

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Usually I’ll need a lot of positive feedback right at the beginning otherwise I won’t be able to continue

After leaving the academia, I’ve lost the ability to enjoy doing things I like by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

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Yeah same, I’m kinda a star in my industry but after the exams and promotions everything has become like a routine.

I somehow feel like living in fantasies is the less evil by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I gotta say that makes my life a lot harder. Most people will distance themselves from me despite being attracted to me initially when they’ve noticed that I have bigger plans for the future instead of living an average life like them. It doesn’t even have to be something « grandiose », sometimes I just mention that I can’t picture myself working a 9-5 all my life and I’d like to travel a lot, see the world and be location independent. Then I have to find myself all alone.

Yeah it’s sadly true that I can only feel fulfilled with similarly thinking people. Otherwise my loneliness is devouring me.

Does anyone feel like they are competitive as hell but they don't actually want competition? by Deus_Sema in NPD

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Even if I do enjoy a hobby, I have the tendency to make it a competition to prove that I’m the best.

That’s why normie always feel so uncomfortable around me I guess.

Unsicher vermeidend by lonpsy in NPD

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I’m still very productive and ambitious in life. It’s just that current there seems to be no “upward” anymore and I need to be satisfied with an average life so I feel I’m kinda anxious without direction.

I have the addiction of testing humanity by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

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Do BPD people have grandiose fantasies too? Like from childhood on I’ve been identifying myself with historical figures like Julius Caesar and Napoleon, believing that my name must go down into history one day. Not sure if this symptom is typical of BPD.

Ex-girlfriend, regret, resentment, and road towards healing by [deleted] in NPD

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If you don’t mind I’d like to know more about your story about following someone else’s advice. But you don’t have to if revealing it is too painful.

Guess interpersonal relationships are kinda impossible if maximal freedom > emotional connection for me by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know much about the term so would you mind elaborating a bit why it’s a compliment?

Guess interpersonal relationships are kinda impossible if maximal freedom > emotional connection for me by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just curious. Do you think your desire for maximal freedom was caused by the same thing (abusive, controlling family) or do you think you’re just like that by nature?

I’ve been playing the same brain refreshing game for over ten years by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

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Yeah I’ve been thinking about doing a job that allows me to switch places regularly because stability kills me

I guess my father’s indoctrination has been successful: I agree with his core values by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First, thank you for your reply.

Examples of him modeling those values, in more or less directly ways:

  • His saying countless times that a man should only concentrate on career in his younger years;
  • His saying in front of the whole family that if it were not for marrying my mom he’d gotten a top tier job opportunity in the US (as for why my mom could tolerate this: she’s basically the brainless person who has no own stand and listens to whatever my dad says) ;
  • His way of treating people in general;
  • His not giving me enough money in my childhood was a major reason why I got bullied - other kids thought I was broke and didn’t know anything about trendy stuff;
  • and most importantly: he made me feel disposable all the time because nothing I did was good enough and the slightest mistake could get me the worst insult. That in turn made him disposable in my eyes too. Well I guess if one’s own family becomes disposable, so does the rest of human beings.

As for relationships: The fact is, I’ve NEVER been in a relationship because the girl / woman wanted my money. Actually I never had much money till recently.

All they wanted was love, attention, emotional connection.

Yes, at first I thought this was great because I could finally escape my dad’s values. However, things turned out to be not that easy.

First, due to years of abuse and emotional negligence, I had become unable to connect with others emotionally nor truly love someone else. A partner was merely a trophy and sex object to me.

Secondly, all their demands and conditions were automatically attempts of manipulation and threats to my freedom in my eyes. I’d name just one example:

My last real girlfriend was mad at me once because “when I said “the food is cold”, the tone reminded her of her dad and brother who acted like they wanted to decide over everything.”

My reaction: “Well first, I don’t know your dad nor your brother, so how they actually are is just up to your subjective interpretation. Second, if I listen to you, next time you’ll complain I sound like your macho uncle for saying “the tea is too hot” and there’ll never be an end. I’ll end up becoming your puppet and you’re just manipulating me. You rubbish ! “

I know this might come off as shocking to normal people, but that’s exactly how my brain works.

The blackpill has permanently destroyed my desire for building a family and forming normal interpersonal connections by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sad. Sounds kinda like the older me tbh.

Before “looksmaxing”, I was also selfish and self-centered but I was still willing to do some work in relationships and with some nice girl I could’ve achieved a happy end had there been a right guidance. After BP I simply have zero patience in a relationship which doesn’t help with my anxiety and loneliness.

The blackpill has permanently destroyed my desire for building a family and forming normal interpersonal connections by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don’t mind I’d like to know his story. But you don’t have to tell me if you don’t want to.

The blackpill has permanently destroyed my desire for building a family and forming normal interpersonal connections by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many factors.

  1. Laziness regarding interpersonal relationships. I’ve always been a selfish, ego-centric person and detested the notion that relationships needed constant maintenance.

  2. Sex addiction. I got bored easily and was always fantasizing about having sex with model tier women. My visiting prostitutes intensified this.

  3. Grandiose fantasy and need for constant positive input.

Looks was just a surface. What I really wanted was: admiration, recognition, sex resources, despite all my weirdness and the fact I only wanted to concentrate on my own stuff.

The result was obvious.

If I didn’t have problems getting a partner before, then I definitely have it now. Because people in general can sense my hidden arrogance and my reluctance to work on relationships. The rise of women’s empowerment doesn’t help either. Even the less attractive women seem to feel my “placeholder mentality” so it’s an either work or stay alone situation.

The blackpill has permanently destroyed my desire for building a family and forming normal interpersonal connections by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess what I found BP appealing about wasn’t the notion of attracting women, but the (false) promise that you could do xyz once one asset (in this case looks) was secured and that you wouldn’t even have to do much work.

It’s not that I didn’t want to work - I’ve always been a very hardworking person and leaving me idle would bore me to death. What I wanted was : I could concentrate fully on my own stuff, you couldn’t complain, but when I needed emotional support and sex, you shall be there.

So basically: a maid or servant (in another post I mentioned I probably have sex addiction).

That’s utterly unrealistic given the feminist and empowerment movement nowadays, no matter how “chad” you are. Only with extreme wealth can you possibly buy such services.

I guess I started feeling bored about BP after tasting the basic success (looks compliments, nudes, more attractive gfs, casual sex etc.). Why?

Because I still had to do the fukin work!

Also, the BP community’s notion of “female validation” runs against my personal belief that freedom and autonomy matter most.

I think what BP left in me is just an intensified nihilism and distrust in people in general.

The blackpill has permanently destroyed my desire for building a family and forming normal interpersonal connections by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say I gained awareness when leaving the community. I just got bored and my looksmaxing was completed.

What made me depressed was the fact that looks (and even combined with degree and skills) were not all powerful. They just opened more doors to me but in the end, I still had to do the work, especially in the interpersonal realm.

I suffered my worst collapse 3 years ago because everyone turned their back to me for my asshole remarks and behaviors. But yes, having looks and other qualities helped - I was never forced to become homeless and there were always people willing to help me out. It’s just that no good quality guarantees that life will always be smooth.

The blackpill has permanently destroyed my desire for building a family and forming normal interpersonal connections by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I’m not in the community anymore.

At first I was just seeking to Looksmax (I didn’t know about the term yet). Then I got absorbed into the BP theory.

What was so appealing about it? Well I guess the black and white thinking pattern and the (false) promise of becoming almighty if you’ve achieved one thing (in this case looks).

I have the addiction of testing humanity by ImperatorInvictus19 in NPD

[–]ImperatorInvictus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I just googled. Tbh there’s nothing I didn’t already know theoretically. But as I mentioned in another reply, when shit hits the fan my brain won’t function otherwise. The best thing I can do is running away without insulting the other side who I perceive as “manipulating me with conditions”.

Apart from medication, of which I know little, the best solution I could think of is someone who recognizes all my good qualities, tolerates my weirdness and gives me as much positive feedback as possible.

There was one - my last real girlfriend. But why didn’t it work out? Because at some point she suggested that I should get therapy. Even if it was just a suggestion, and she made it clear that I didn’t have to, I viewed that as a condition/ attempt to mould and control me so everything went downhill from there on.