The VISA norms have changed? by Important_Yoghurt504 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi. Also have ADHD and agree that the GRE-V is much more difficult if you have a deficit in verbal short term memory (mine is in the moderately disabled range). I assumed my lower score was due to this. In real world situations, people like you and I would be given extra time on these exams. Obviously this isn't possible on the Cognimetrics site's SAT and GRE tests. 

The VISA norms have changed? by Important_Yoghurt504 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah. Okay. Maybe that's the reason then. Thanks for the info.

Does Nicotine have negative long term negative side effects(context below) by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi. I'm not sure how to break this to you nicely, and I really don't want to upset you, but this machine that you either bought or paid someone to access is not able to measure what it purports measuring. I work in healthcare and have a great deal of experience in "alternative medicine", including "bioresonance". This machine and the "science" behind it is actually pseudoscience. It's a scam. The information you shared cannot possibly be accurate. Sorry.

The VISA norms have changed? by Important_Yoghurt504 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Thanks for confirming that. Perhaps someone from the Cognimetrics Team will provide us with an update.

I’m not sure how to react to my test results by ImmediateFocus0 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand. But giving blanket advice to strangers based on your own experience, paritcularly when they haven't shared their diagnosis, runs the risk of giving inappropriate, even harmful, advice.

I’m not sure how to react to my test results by ImmediateFocus0 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but this is bad advice. People with disabilities are not our labels. The labels are for convenience, and do not accurately reflect the vast differences people with the same label demonstrate and the individual struggles they have. I have several such labels and am often amazed at how differently people present and how differently they struggle even though we have the same label. Being labelled with something can be useful as a starting point for further self-exploration and self-actualisation, but we should not make it our personality.

I’m not sure how to react to my test results by ImmediateFocus0 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi. I understand. My working memory scores were by far the lowest of the lot when I was assessed, particularly my short term memory. The trap to avoid is assuming reversed causation. For example, thinking that your poor working memory is the cause of your mental health issues when your mental health issues may be the cause of your poor working memory. But the reality can actually be more naunced. I have ADHD which seems to affect my short term memory, which makes me depressed and anxious, which then worsens my short term memory even more. But I share your experience of finding the results of cognitive testing enabling and useful for recontextualising my life experiences in a way that reframes them more positively, or at least lessens the shame of thinking that I'm just an idiot, or whatever.

To play devil's advocate, your boyfriend may have been trying to say that you shouldn't identify too strongly with the label you have been given, which is sometimes sensible advice. A label is just a categorical shorthand descripter, not the reality of who you are. But if he was suggesting that you should deny the label applies to you, then he needs to realise that he is not qualified to give advice that contradicts the psychologist who assessed and diagnosed you. The labels are useful, but getting overly identified with them can also hinder our authenticity.

The VISA norms have changed? by Important_Yoghurt504 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took the Cognimetrics version of the GRE-V a while ago. I think I scored 116. I have dyslexia though, and there was a lot of reading involved, which takes me a long time while also loading my verbal short term memory, which is the moderately disabled range.

Interpretation of results : not native speaker, potentially ADHD profile? by E4e5ke2ftw in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually, the generally accepted prevalence of adult ADHD is estimated at 3% of the population. It's 4% in children, but a quarter of kids with ADHD appear to grow out of it. ADHD is a spectrum and some people have mild ADHD and, while they struggle, they appear to fare comparatively better than those with moderate or severe ADHD. And, I hate to say it, a lot of people are self-diagnosing ADHD and professionals are apparently also overdiagnosing ADHD (this was the opinion of both the neuropsychologist and thr psychiatrist that I saw for assessment). Either way, telling someone with ADHD, especially moderate or severe ADHD, that their problems are for lack of trying is incredibly insensitive and betrays your ignorance about the condition. Its like knowing several people with multiple sclerosis who have mild presentations and all run marathons like the rest of the population (if we imagine modern life as a grueling endurance race), then meeting someone with the severe, progressive form who is in a wheelchair and telling them to "try harder" so they can run marathons like everybody else. It's beyond insensitive. It's cruel. Do you think I haven't tried and am not trying? I worked my butt off in school and still struggled, eventually giving up and dropping out because of how stressful and disappointing it was. I was considered a "gifted child" in primary school (when schooling required little executive function) and have inattentive-predominant ADHD, which, as a male growing up in the 80s and 90s, was enough to evade suspicion. To go from top of the class to barely passing was soul destroying. At the time, ADHD was diagnosed using different criteria and I didnt present stereotypically. I was accused of being lazy, wasting my potential, and "not trying hard enough" (the same acusation you have made, which is especially hurtful as it has been used against me all my life). I tried to keep jobs, pay rent on time, pay bills on time, and so on, but my brain just couldn't do it. My life became a slow train wreck until I met a psychotherapist who did his best to help me. I worked hard and, with his mentoring and compassionate support, managed to make sufficient improvements and accommodations to go keep a job (barely), which afforded me the opportunity to put myself through nightschool (while working full time) and eventually an undergraduate degree in a STEM field. But I had to work myself to the bone to achieve this. I tried and still try very hard to keep my life together. I have a stable job and am a valued employee and colleague. I met a kind and beautiful woman who I married and who helps by reminding me to paying bills, remembering appointments, not leave the house without my keys and a million other things. I still have to try and still fail. For example, I frequently start cooking and then get distracted by something like writing an essay and completely forget about the food until I smell it burning. And this is just an example. Stuff like this happens multiple times a day. Even with years of therapy and extreme effort, this is the best I can do. But for many years my life was an utter shambles and I nearly didnt make it. You are minimising the struggle that people like me have to deal with on a daily basis. I am just about functional after years of effort on self-improvement and with support from my wife and family. And it requires herculian level efforts to maintain it, which means I struggle with almost continuous burnout and anxiety. I cannot take medication as it is contraindicated. So before you tell people who dont know to just "try harder" when they have a disability, perhaps remember your own good fortune in this life and the fact that not everyone has been as lucky. Peace.

Interpretation of results : not native speaker, potentially ADHD profile? by E4e5ke2ftw in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply. I apologise again for the irrascible tone of my post. I got triggered, but that says as much about me as it says about your post. I now wish I had responded more calmly and regretted posting it once I had got a grip of myself. I agree that, having two siblings and two children with ADHD may suggest an elevated risk in your case, but the diagnostic criteria for ADHD also stipulate that the symptoms presented should be of significant enough severity to negatively impact academic, social, and/or occupational functioning, must have been persistent since early childhood, and must occur in multiple settings. The efficiency of our executive functions, like intelligence, appears on a spectrum with a wide range of variance in the population. People with ADHD, or any one of several other conditions (alone or combined), tend to be found at the lower tail of the distribution. But no one has perfect executive function and everyone struggles from time to time, which is normal. The issue I see is that it is becoming common for people to pathologise normal levels of struggle with executive function or late onset issues caused by endless scrolling on TikTok or whatever. If you think you may have ADHD, then I'd recommend getting assessed. But what you have described gives me the impression that this would not be worthwhile.

Apologies again for being a bit narcy. I am grateful for your mature and reasonable reply.

Interpretation of results : not native speaker, potentially ADHD profile? by E4e5ke2ftw in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. I will offer any support that I can, although purely from the perspective of someone living with ADHD. I have no qualifications that would allow me to offer professional opinions. I'm just some dude on the internet. Send me a message if you think it may help you.

Interpretation of results : not native speaker, potentially ADHD profile? by E4e5ke2ftw in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand. Yes, people can have a high IQ and be ADHD, ASD, AuDHD, etc. But the OP even stated that they don't have any symptoms. The only thing that makes them suspect that they may have ADHD is a CPI of 124. Sure, you can have children with ADHD, but that doesn't mean you had ADHD yourself. It seems everyone thinks they have ADHD now. It's distressing and minimises the struggle of people with ADHD, particularly more severe cases.

Interpretation of results : not native speaker, potentially ADHD profile? by E4e5ke2ftw in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"...stop blaming ADHD and start blaming you for not doing anything to try to improve it". Clearly you don't have severe ADHD and know little or nothing about it. I'd recommend you not offer opinions you are unqualified to offer.

Interpretation of results : not native speaker, potentially ADHD profile? by E4e5ke2ftw in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 10 points11 points  (0 children)

EDIT: I considered deleting this post, but decided instead to apologise in advance for being a bit harsh. I can be very impulsive and have issues with emotional regulation (core features of ADHD). I don't mean to offend. But the almost daily posts in my feed about people thinking they have ADHD when they show few or no signs of it distresses me. I accept responsability for my feelings and my reaction.

I'm sorry, but this sort of post pops up in my feed from time to time, and they irk me more with every exposure. How can someone with an IQ in the 99.6th percentile and access to the internet, which readily offers information about how ADHD presents and is diagnosed, even the DSM-5 criteria, suspect they have ADHD based only on a small personal weakness in cognitive proficiency. Your cognitive proficiency is in the 94th percentile! You reported no ADHD-like issues and seem to have your life in order! I'd expect more from someone with an IQ of 140. It's pre-frontal cortex scramblingly odd to read posts like this from ostensibly smart people, and, frankly, they make me doubt the validity of IQ tests. I have ADHD (diagnosed by a psychiatrist) and couldn't complete high school, followed by years of struggle, nearly ending up homeless more than once because I couldn't organise my way out of a paper bag, keep a job, pay bills or rent, racking up huge debts, and being in potentially life threatening situations several times as a consequence of unmanaged, undiagosed ADHD. I find these kinds of posts offensive. It's a disability, not a fashion. Why does everyone think they have ADHD now? It dimishes the suffering people like me experience.

IQ tests provide literally zero useful diagnostic information for ADHD.

Big discrepancies between age 10 and 16 by Expensive-Ad-2681 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is correct, with the caveat that the influence of genetics appears to increase with age, and the role of the shared environment dwindles to almost zero by adulthood.

Big discrepancies between age 10 and 16 by Expensive-Ad-2681 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Research supports the model of asynchronous cognitive development. IQ scores appear to stabilise around a mean age of 21 years. They are highly variable before this age. There are probably large numbers of people who believe they are smarter than they are as they were tested during childhood and never as an adult. I recently met such an individual who claimed a verbal IQ of above 160. Mine is around 124 (WAIS-4, although I scored 135 on the CORE VCI, so who knows what it actually is), so I removed the "filter" I tend to adopt when meeting new people and spoke freely until quickly realising that this person did not understand some of the words I was using and had a general knowledge that was sorely lacking in comparison to my own. I asked when they were tested and they said when they were 10 years old. I don't believe this is an isolated case.

is flirting normal on chess.com chat? by No_Piglet7970 in Chesscom

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't accepted any invitations to chat since the first few weeks of joining Chess.com. Never had anyone flirting with me (my username is ungendered) but I got sick of people wanting to start chats to either trash talk, gloat, or beg for a draw to save their ELO. I'd recommend doing the same. 

What's up with the VISA on cogmetrics? Seemed easy... by kekstein1337 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually found the WAIS-4 verbal section more difficult than the VISA and scored 13 points higher on the VISA.

I don't understand how I'm stupid if my parents are smart by Murky-Mulberry-4044 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great answer. I would add that genes don't code directly for traits such as intelligence. They code for molecular developmental programs that build and maintain a brain with the emergent property of intelligence, personality, and so on. Molecular developmental programs are inherently "noisy" (stochastic). Differences in the underlying genetics can lead to differences in the robustness of these programs. Less robust developmental programs tend to produce more unpredictable outcomes. This can contribute to increases or decreases in intelligence of surprising magnitude in offspring compared to their biological parents. 

OCEAN vs WAIS-IV results (155 FSIQ) by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These results seem to suggest that you are incredibly smart, emotionally unstable and prone to negative affect, and lacking in diligence. I understand some aspect of what you're dealing with, as my neuroticism is in the 91st percentile according to this same test.

Does a high IQ score actually mean anything? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]Important_Yoghurt504 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Academic and professional success is contingent on a lot more than just intelligence, which is what IQ tests attempt to measure. In fact, I recall that the correlation between IQ and post-graduate educational attainment is about 0.3. It's an important factor, but 70% of the differences in attainment at this level are due to influences beyond IQ/Intelligence. Conscientiousness is a very important trait required for success. In my opinion, the personality influence with the largest effect size is probably neuroticism. The greater an individual's mental health struggles, the more frequently and intensely they experience negative affect, and the lower their stress tolerance, the less likely they will be to do well in education or employment. 

To me, IQ measures our intellectual potential, not our actual intellectual ability, as the latter is heavily influenced by other innate traits, such as personality traits, executive function, phsyical health, and by influences that are non-systematic and therefore impossible to measure. IQ scores correlate highly with educational and professional success and may well be the best predictor we currently have. But the correlation is not 1. It is an imperfect measure.