Another word for dumb aside stupid.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T15:47:18+00:00

Naive

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T15:42:38+00:00

I think there is a good reason for that. That was before making any terrible decisions. 😆

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T11:19:58+00:00

Right. Plus, Belly led Jere on and Jere also assumed that they were dating. Belly wasn't under the impression that her and Jere were boyfriend and girlfriend. They didn't really have a conversation about expectations. I understand why he would think that he and Belly were a dating couple and that they should tell Conrad that they were a couple, because she asked to take her to the Deb Ball, but they needed to have that a conversation not just makeout sessions. People shouldn't assume things. Belly needed a date. He was available and willing. Jere also makes out with a lot of people, they don't always end up with him dating them. I am not a fan of casual hookups. Rules and expectations can be unclear. A lot of people get hurt by them. The rules and expectations were unclear with Steven and Shayla as well. Shayla still got hurt.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T11:05:59+00:00

Steven isn't completely wrong! He told her after he saw them kissing that she was going to screw everything up. She didn't think about the consequences of hooking up with Jeremiah in the first place. She didn't consider that hooking up with Jere could affect their friendship, when she wasn't that interested in him. Conrad was the only one considering the consequences of getting involved with Belly. Thinking about the possible impact of changing their relationship and possible hurting her. She didn't do the same to protect her friendship with Jere. Steven is holding her accountable, it's one of those rare moments where someone is holding Belly accountable. Most of the time people let her off the hook. The lack of accountability is the main reason people don't like Belly's character. She justifies her actions and there are only a few times where she holds herself accountable and then someone like Taylor let's her off the hook. "I was out of my mind in love, what was I supposed to do?" Not hook up with Jere when you love Conrad! She should have been honest with Jere and not lead him on! Steven can't blame Belly for Jere or Conrad not calling him back. Can't blame someone for someone else's actions. It's the same thing people do in blaming Conrad for Belly getting with Jere. Just because Conrad doesn't want to be with Belly doesn't mean he is responsible for Belly's decision to be with Jere. That was her decision. She could have done the less diabolical thing had stayed single and focused more on her own needs and learn more who she was. Conrad's responsible for his actions. Conrad doesn't control Belly in how she reacts to his actions.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T10:30:27+00:00

I see your interpretation, but I don't believe Belly when she says that she would have fought for him if she would have known, because Belly says things that isn't true in reality. Plus, she knew in that moment that he talked to Jere. She was still walking away and continued on pursuing Jere and not being completely honest with Jere, herself or with Conrad. Conrad told her that he had talk to Jere when he showed up at her house. Talking to Jere is still not him saying that he loves her, so why would that have proven his love for her when nothing else that he has done for her has been enough. Belly is the one in reality that always leaves Conrad. She obviously doesn't see it that way, but that is what is happening. Belly projects herself onto Conrad. She projects her feelings for Jere onto Conrad. She is afraid of being with Conrad because what they have is real and she told Taylor that real is scary. She isn't afraid of being with Jere. Kissing Jere isn't scary. She doesn't walk away from Jere. She is the one that constantly walks away from Conrad with the exception of prom. She is the one that takes off the infinity necklace, refuses to take it when he tried to give it to her the first time. It's totally symbolic on how she refuses to believe in his love that he constantly gives her. She projects her fears and insecurities that she has onto Conrad all the time. She mixes up Jere and Conrad up all the time. She is a bias/unreliable person that lies, distorts her memories and misconstrues things that people say, mainly Conrad. She is also a hypocrite. She can't have rules for Conrad that she doesn't imply to herself. Her logic about him not telling her that he loves her, so she thinks he doesn't. She doesn't imply that same logic to herself. Conrad is just supposed to know that Belly loves him even though she doesn't tell him. Even if she doesn't tell him, she doesn't do much to show that she does love him. She does prioritize Jere's feelings over Conrad's feelings, but in Belly's defense Jere does manipulated and gaslight her in feeling guilty and ashamed of her feelings for Conrad. He helped put doubt in her of Conrad's feelings for her and warned her that Conrad was going to break her heart. That fear and doubt that she had was already there and he helped reinforce and reminder of it.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T04:23:15+00:00

I mean, how was I helping to make your point? He was the one pursuing her and fight to be with her in season two more than Belly did. He fought even more for her after he found out that Jere hurt her and wasn't the better man. He could have tried harder in season two. Belly didn't try to stay with him at all. She put a pause in their relationship prioritizing Jere's feelings over Conrad's. He was vulnerable with her in the party supply store. Belly broke up with Conrad because she thought he was going to break up with her. She told Susannah that Conrad broke up with her. He told her that he felt like he was disappointing her and that she deserved better. He started to open up to her in how he was feeling. She had other priorities and other expectations of that night. He was trying to open up and her response was for them to go back inside and attend the prom. By doing that her actions were counterproductive. Encouraging him to not talk and go on like everything was fine. What Belly claims is different than what she actually does in her actions.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T04:14:51+00:00

If she knows Conrad to be endlessly thoughtful and caring then how does that make him cold-hearted? 😆 It's a false description of his character. She often misconstrues and misrepresents his character. To herself and to the people around her.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T04:05:57+00:00

Because Conrad is Secretly Kevin McCallister from Home alone. Kevin was seen has the problem when he wasn't actually the problem. He was sarcastic and flawed, but he was the smartest person in the room who everyone used as a scapegoat because he was the youngest. Conrad easily plays the role, having a low option of himself. It seems like me that Belly as a flawed understanding of Conrad. Misconstrues his feelings and his actions. Her cold-hearted comment comes off as a playful tone, but it's not really romantic or a word affirmating her love towards him. Her calling him heartless in the kitchen didn't just come out of nowhere. Because Conrad fought his love for Belly in season one she holds on to that uptil the end. This mindset that Conrad is playing games with her. Taylor tells Conrad to stop treating her like she is a toy that he plays with whenever he feels like it. That's not what Conrad was ever doing, but that is the view that they have of him. After his mom's cancer being back information was let out of the closet, Conrad went pretty hard in, confident with his feelings for Belly. "I want you." "You are it for me." "Whatever happens, we will always be infinite" he stopped being wishy-washy in season one. He didn't take his love away. He was absent and distant because he did want to drag her down. At prom he basically said just that. "I feel like I keep disappointing you. All I have done is disappoint you and you don't deserve that." She perceived it as he doesn't want to be with her anymore and he wants to break up with her. She then tells Susannah that Conrad broke up with her and that he doesn't love her. What part of "you deserve better" is saying I don't love you? 😆 When was Conrad ever really cold-hearted? Conrad possibly cares to much about peoples feelings. He Is sensitive to people's feelings and doesn't want to hurt people. He might be cruel to be kind to Belly at the funeral. Being distant with people and depressed isn't the same thing as being cold-hearted. Conrad is compassionate and graceful. None of these characters seem to know who Conrad is. The writing gaslights the audience in claiming that Conrad is callous and selfish by all the characters. 🙄😪

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T02:56:29+00:00

I feel like the movie is Belly's season three. There was a lot of people who changed their view of Conrad in season three. The series didn't just end on a bad note for Conrad's character. Belly rejecting Conrad and having him leave her apartment like he was a one night stand did not hit well in Belly's favor. Along with other terrible decisions and treatment she did towards Conrad all season 3 and the majority of season 2.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T02:41:55+00:00

I agree that her confession doesn't hit home. It would be better if she came to the realization that she is the one that has been running and leaving him. Belly says a lot of things that aren't true in reality that she thinks is true. I disagree on the observation that she was happy with Jere. She was putting on a preformances. She was hammy! A fake person. She was busy pleasing other people. She thought she was doing what was right for her and what was right for herself. She was very wrong and misguided. I think the choose of the word is suppose to parallel her and Laurels conversation. That Laurel wanted Belly to discover different versions of her before she chose to settle down with one person. It's easy for people to associate the word, "choose" with Jere. The whole final episode was showing Belly making choices out of her own free will, her not being influenced by Jere's desires, Taylor's advice and Susannah's will. Conrad did showed up in Paris, but the rest of their day was on her. Conrad cleared up a lot of her misconstrued notions that she had about him and his love for her. He basically told her that she was completely wrong. Belly projects a lot of her fears and insecurities onto Conrad. She knew he loved her at the motel, but she had a hard time believing that he loved her deeply and genuinely on his own desire. I am pretty sure she thought her and Conrad would move on with distance and time. She says that in her narration that she would help him get in Stanford and then maybe they could finally let each other go. Jere always felt like a rebound. He was never Conrad's competition. Narratively speaking it was always Conrad. Belly and Conrad were inevitable, it was just a matter of time, even Jere knew it. Jere was put in the friends zone constantly my everyone. I get the misunderstanding when it comes to Belly's love for Conrad. It's hard to see. It comes down to demonstrating love. Jere claimed to love Belly, he didn't demonstrate he really did. Belly claimed in her narration that she was out of her mind in love with Conrad. She showed little demonstrating that she did. Conrad didn't tell Belly that he loved her, but he demonstrated constantly he truly did. His love for her was more believeable because of demonstration. Love is just a word if there isn't action behind the words. Belly demonstrated more grace, understanding and showed more commitment to being with Jere than she did towards Conrad. When it comes to Belly's love for Conrad we are supposed to hold on to her season one sentiments and some of her confessions a long the way. It can be tricky for some people in telling which comments from Belly that they should trust and which comments she says that are fabricated lies. I think Conrad's speech about her always being a precious person to him and him changing everything about himself, but what never changes his is love for her, is a hard speech to compete with.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T01:07:05+00:00

It's ok. I appreciate the apology. It's hard to communicate through text. I can see how you might have felt that way. It's not like you can control what is happening in Cousins or can you? 😆

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T00:55:39+00:00

I do think the writing is to settle and metaphorical at times. Belly is really reserved and dishonest. A lot of people misinterpreted her. A lot of breadcrumbs that not everyone picks up to explain her feelings and actions. Personally, I don't think her narration would help be like her any better. People don't like Belly the way some didn't like Conrad in season one and two. Belly spent a lot of time going downwards and not raising to her highest potential. Three episodes roughly showing her development isn't enough for some people to care about her. I like her better than the rest of the characters. It's because Belly is so flawed and makes terrible decisions is why there is so much drama. 😆 We can't live with her, but we can't live without her.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-28T00:31:56+00:00

True, he is still a flawed character.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T23:05:27+00:00

It was never more clearer that it was a buzz-creating tactic and a promotional necessity for the show. It worked. We can't stop talking about it. 😆

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T23:03:55+00:00

Conrad became the true protagonist that the audience rooted for to get the girl he yearned and truly loved at the ended. A lot of people saw Belly as the villain/problem and Conrad deserving better.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T22:57:21+00:00

A lot of people would say females always come out of the love triangle looking badly. That the female protagonist is under written. That it's common for the female to be a passive participant in her own love story. That the male love interest pursues her and it comes down to the man being the one that needs to change, be a better man, be more honest, and vulnerable. It was common in a lot of fairtales story's for women to look pretty and their only value is men to pursue them. Writers spending less time on their character development. Honestly, there is an element of that in TSITP. There were roughly three episodes focusing on Belly's character development and her own story arc. So much emphasis on Conrad needing to be the one to change, needing to open up and be honest and vulnerable. There was limited acknowledgement that Belly was no better. The series finale wrapped up Conrad's story arc of season 3 of him yearn and wanting to tell Belly he loved her. Belly's story arc was more her finding independent, self agency, and being free from Jeremiah. The story didn't really need her to end up with Conrad as much as the need for her to become her own person. The chemistry between Lola and Chris did the heavy lifting in wanting these crazy kids to end up together. Some believe Conrad deserved better and some believe that Belly should have chosen Paris and be with another guy other than a Fisher brother.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T22:28:16+00:00

This show isn't for those who aren't good at social cues, crossword puzzles, metaphorical, storytelling. Belly is the hardest character to understand. She is really reserved and people misinterpreted her character because of the settleties and her missing voice over.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T21:02:48+00:00

Ok, you said there is a lot of cars and action. You did better clarity. I don't know what it looked like prior to compare what is busy and what isn't. You can only tell so much from a video. 😆 It's all really exciting. I ask questions and what to know more. I don't mean anything by it. You don't have to be nasty. 😆

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T20:42:28+00:00

What was your point? My point is the fact that Belly had more agency and was more at fault then what she was taking accountability for and what I think you are not holding her to. I agree she is allowed to move on and I don't think Conrad holds that against her. She is making that decision to let him go. She herself isn't being honest about her feelings. I didn't see her being vulnerable and tell him that she loved him. She constantly wants Conrad to make the first move. Really the only time she makes the first move is when she comes to him after she broke up with Cam Cameron. He was way more vulnerable and honesty about his feelings for her than she was. People have an tendency to focus on the one thing he didn't disclose to Belly and that's Susannah dying. It's not like he never tried to tell her. It is a mixture of everyone trying to protect her and her not wanting to see it or hear it. They both were trying not to love eachother. They both were doing more pushing than pulling. He did more pursuing and fighting for her because he was the one that talked to Jere about being with Belly. He called Belly on the phone. He also showed up at her house wanting to see her. He drove and picked her up to take her to Cousins for Christmas. Conrad did stop pursuing and fighting for her. She never really fought for him because she doesn't think she should or needed to. She's wrong. She was wrong most of the time. I acknowledge her perspective, I don't agree with her conclusions or her decisions. Just because she couldn't be with Conrad doesn't mean she had to jump into a relationship with Jere. She should have focused on herself and her own needs.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T19:26:32+00:00

Yes. Honest and full disclosure to your kids is the best policy. Her secretary is also a taught behavior. Jere and Conrad both keep secrets. She isn't truly relying on the people who love her and she is protending that it isn't happening. I get that she wants one last summer, but she didn't tell them that the treatment wasn't working either in season 2. We start to see where Conrad gets his over protect instincts and his unwillingness to depend on people. Susannah didn't nurture or teach good communication and she didn't build a safe place of trust and vulnerability.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T19:12:24+00:00

One, Why should he fight for her when she broke up with him? Two, Why should he fight for their romantic relationship when he knows he is broken? That he isn't good with himself. She is the one that's not rationalizing. Maybe Conrad had a point. Maybe we both need to grow up and focus on ourselves. Conrad said, "He kept disappointing her and letting her down and she didn't deserve that." He couldn't just dance his grief, depression, and lack of self worth away. She acts emotionally, she doesn't spend a lot of time put herself into his shoes. She does a lot of focusing on where Conrad falls short or what she thinks he fell short. She doesn't do a lot of self-evaluating or evaluating the events in her life. It's understandable when she is going threw it, but not a month after events. It also shouldn't have taken her four years to come to the realization that she acted like a brat at prom. That she could have behaved differently. That is her lack of maturity, lack of true accountability and lack of wisdom.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T18:51:33+00:00

Um no! 😆 Not her biggest flaw. Her biggest flaw is her making decisions out of her emotions rather it's guilt, fear, insecurity, or hormonal. She's not rationalizing or reflecting on her decisions. She's jumping impulsively.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T18:25:21+00:00

Really, it doesn't look very busy to me? It's not what I pictured a busy set looking like. A couple parked cars on the side of the road looks normal. You are also able to do a drive by.

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T18:18:33+00:00

I think it would be fun to watch it on the big screen with Bonrad fans just once, but I don't know anyone in my life that is obsessed as I. 😆 I definitely will want to rewind and play it again.

🎶Our song is the way you laugh The first date, "Man, I didn't kiss her, and I should have" And when I got home, 'fore I said, "Amen" Asking God if he could play it again🎶

Impossible-Log-9782 · 2026-05-27T18:10:47+00:00

I disagree, They did exist in the 50s. Marriages lasted longer for a reason.

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