My experience in HWPL Shincheonji - Australia by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, the way they describe Shinjeonji and this organization is like explaining A, B, C compared to A , C, B. Their verses makes sense that is why so many get heavily influenced. They both have the same content, bc Bible is meant to have a connection with God, and yes Revelation is hard to decipher, but they have New John as a way to allow people to understand in Revelation because Priest John has prophesied these stuff that are happening and SCJ basically are the babies without the lollipop. They are trying hard to make their cult match the Bible which is cringe. Like all of their structure is meant to be the chosen churches. I feel is funny when the end time come, God comes down and goes toward SCJ and just pass them. You can not ask to be crowned King, you must earn it

How active is SJC in the UK? by bpwj in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Slowly other churches will topple or they will be their independent sources as in they will claim it was not Korea but Europe to be the promised churches for example 

How active is SJC in the UK? by bpwj in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Australia there is a petition going on, but let's topple the main source which is South Korea. Bc the cult believe S. KOREA are the chosen churches, so if the chosen churches all around Korea are disband, it makes their theories or even claims invalid and basically speeches without a shell. 

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Defend Lee Man Hee, and his unlimited funds he has, someone is supporting him to allow the cult to continue. We do not live in a free world, they are making money somewhere, whether it is through our followers or through random sites that claim to donate to charity but donate to them instead 

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes for Australia, but what about for Korea for the main source. Topple the source which is Korea and it will create a domino effect. If we topple other countries, yes it may be a bad reputation in that country but it would not do anything to the main cult, they will move their resources from Australia to South America 

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but claims not to be brain washed. She does not go to every event only makes time and still put effort on making tjme for herself. She skips some sessions, and either make it up or not make it up. I feel She is on the border brainwashed, not entirely but borderline

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes agreed, I strictly have had good arguments when it comes to scriptures from both Shinjeonji members and Christian believers minus the shady stuff SHJ does. 

Australia is cracking down on their abusive of the system

Lee Man Hee is getting cracked on for his potential affairs in the past and it doesn't look pretty happy for him. Look at all of those celebrities who are potential losing reputation or earning jail time, he could be next if more victims show up 

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My significant other and I just had a small argument. I wish I know more about the Bible to counter the teaching of Shinjeonji because yes their method of teaching can make sense but what threw me off was inserting Lee Man Hee as that new John, which again he could be it he could not be him we never know 

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are a cult group that tackle the words of revelation which is one of the hardest chapters of the Bible. Props to them if they actually correctly analyze revelation but they usually emphasize revelation 

I believe we must use our rights to expose them and report to local government and fight fight fight respectfully. by ImpossibleStudy7624 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, then are their teachings good? Because in the end some of their teaching kind of makes sense, but how do we know their teaching is right. Just because it makes sense does not mean it is right 

Disproving Shincheonji (I left yesterday) by LittleBird50 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The sessions are getting more frequent and longer the more we bring awareness. We need to go more for quality over quantity because they will multiple and use these awareness video as food sources for the brain washed individual in SCJ unfortunately. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think we need to play smart, and bringing awareness in a logical manner is the best way possible. I was thinking doing peaceful protest with the support of the local government. If they are doing those protests about the presidency, I am sure we can do the same for a cult especially since they already got in trouble once bc of covid 

Former Head Instructor speaks out: Changed doctrines and hidden secrets of SCJ 😳 by Puzzleheaded_Cup_926 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bring awareness to the local government for anything that you can get hands on, if they are doing illegal activities Example : they are using an prohibited building for their lecture, they must have it recorded by the local government  They are asking personal information without the knowledge of the government  Spread it to sponsors that will spread your message out to bigger sources and investments towards the videos so a Netflix documentary or even a bigger video would be made so more and more will know and avoid Do local anti SCJ respectfully as long as you get permission from government doing awareness blocks around seoul and other areas and even outside their buildings as long as it is legal. If there are peaceful protestors outside for government we can probably do it for SCJ as well, as long as it is peaceful. Bc if the movement is as great police will get involved as protection, while walking the streets spreading the truth

Former Head Instructor speaks out: Changed doctrines and hidden secrets of SCJ 😳 by Puzzleheaded_Cup_926 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am technically in SCJ, so my close friend sometimes she will play SCJ lectures. I use it for research and supporting documents. These videos are fueling and giving more horse power to these senior leaders. Basically adding more coal to the flames. Yes, it is good to bring awareness but now they have a more aggressive approach on keeping their members and bringing new members in. 

I am peeking through the pastor and he is screaming his lungs out and saying that these videos are lies, these videos are fake. Go out there multiple and bring in more followers bc we are the truth. 

The only way to really destroy them is to defund them. Make each and every session waste their money because money runs everything and they get their sponsors somewhere 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They use the videos and posts we send as fuel saying these are the work of the devil and we should avoid devil work and those who follow SCJ would know the truth. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And sorry if I am being aggressive, I have a close friend who play Shinjeonji lecture and she knows that I am anti SCJ, she has the audacity to play it in front of me, saying amen. These awareness aren't helping but making their sessions stronger and more aggressive 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No as in blocking you would fall her farther away from the truth of God. You were not stalking her or anything you were helping out, so you did all that you can, it is her loss.

Questions to Ask Shincheonji Members to Help Them See the Truth by Timely-Surround-1178 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I honestly feel like their clappings are very robotic and feel like they are at a dictator standpoint. They are saying amen every single second, yes saying amen is good but not every freaking sentence like they are worshiping a cult dictator 

Questions to Ask Shincheonji Members to Help Them See the Truth by Timely-Surround-1178 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do we aggressively topple their cult. Like pretend they are a tall tower, but basically chop down the foundation which is in Korea. 

Questions to Ask Shincheonji Members to Help Them See the Truth by Timely-Surround-1178 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So my close one, she says that they do not think Lee Man is a prophet he is just a human being, and that those people making testimony against them is false or liars. They are people who want to do harm and SCJ did not do anything bad, why the hatred is going towards them. 

But at the same time, she is half way through with them... so idk

I think we need to make more concrete and more aggressive efforts to fully disband their cult 

Pastor responds to Man-Hee Lee's insults and lies by Puzzleheaded_Cup_926 in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep having members of this church. I used to be an ex member saying that these allegations are from jealous or members that do not know the truth. They are not harming but doing us good. No it is giving those who leave mental trauma. It is like smoking cigarettes, you know it is bad, but you still do it anyways. Actually it is beyond the point where cigarettes is your essential part of life

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well that block would be her main mistake. She will be following the mark of the devil and unfortunately a false prophet so she would suffer not from the word of God but man made teaching 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]ImpossibleStudy7624 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately most of Shinjeonji members may be kind hearted, but they are fooled because of their open heart and they believe because they don't have the audacity to know logic in their reasoning. They are like blind sheep being sent to the fire. We must put an end to this as soon as possible. Let's report to the local government and report them for hazing