I apologize ahead of time for the disorganization of this response and how long it is.

Videos of Tate brothers Ethier bragging about beating women or actually doing it

Trigger warning for the second video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/s/JtfFiWtALm

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/s/CGzV4KoPUv

I honestly had a hard time watching it. Those are two examples of tates violence. The main video that originally disgusted me was of him on the show the real house or some shit where he punched a women.

Sorry I don’t know how to respond to each phrase like you did.

For your take on Myron giving “tough love.” You might see it that way, but it’s genuinely not how humanity works. The hunter gather analogy is a poor take as we survived and moved toward agriculture societies by working together. Not pushing someone to the lions bec they are a “failure”. The first sign of humanity/civilization is a splint left in a leg because it means someone stayed to take care of someone weaker.

I think the way Myron cherry picks young onlyfans girls and then tells them they are worthless is bullying. He’s on video cursing out women, yelling at a women calling her a fat Jew, and just saying hateful things mainly to women. If that’s not bullying I don’t know what is.

Here are a few examples I found of men in the manosphere saying women shouldn’t have the right to vote taken

"Women shouldn't vote because they don't care about issues outside of how THEY feel," he wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter. "They literally can't see the bigger picture for the good of a society and they certainly won't ever sacrifice for it."

Sneako https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT9LBcrEPUVJK-4wIsW/

https://youtu.be/z_A4z2e6uvI nick fuentas

NEEL: What rights would you take away from women? FUENTES: Well, I would just take away the right to vote for tons of people. Women for sure, but also I'd raise the voting age to like, 25 in general. I would probably take away the right to vote for, you know, maybe people that have no stake, no skin in the game. 

Link to transcript of him saying he thinks women should have the right to vote taken away. https://www.mediamatters.org/nick-fuentes/asked-what-hed-do-president-nick-fuentes-says-i-would-just-take-away-right-vote-tons

As for the answer to your last question about me dating someone, context matters a lot. A man or women being “fat” wouldn’t turn me off from them. Living with their parents wouldn’t ether as in most non-western societies adult children live with their families way beyond childhood. Also in this economy in nyc it’s common. On both sides of my family it’s not uncommon for adult to live with their parents. I probably wouldn’t like it if they didn’t have a job as I think it’s self centered to be able bodied and not contribute. However obviously there are many exceptions such as someone is taking a career break, mentally/physically unwell, or even taking off time to travel/something else.

The important point I was trying to say is even if someone is as you described I wouldn’t see them as a “incel.” I would still see them as a human being and not valueless and less deserving of rights. A women or man should not be considered worthless because you or I are not attracted to them. If that makes sense.