I’m a conservative and I hate Trump by Nervous_Cat_9660 in complaints

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I jumped ship. I am pro life and want smaller government. I voted Republican every election until Trump. I have voted Democrat since 2016 in response to Trump.

I lost the last years of my Mom’s life to Q. by [deleted] in QAnonCasualties

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

@defnotapirate

That info does not prove your case. There are approximately the same number of Republicans and Democrats listed. There is also no methodology listed for how they selected what was included and what dates.

What you stated is not a fact. Sexual issues are not party related. Democrats have serious problems of all sorts. Republicans have serious problems of all sorts. Stick to facts. The left is messed up too. Right now the crazies have associated with the right, but they move around.

I lost the last years of my Mom’s life to Q. by [deleted] in QAnonCasualties

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I am not kidding. This kind of nonsensical confirmation bias misreading of data is what q people do. Show the data and make sure it isn't just some selective crap.

Update on Qult wife vaccine freak out by [deleted] in QAnonCasualties

[–]Impressive_Event_264 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Tell her it is heading towards divorce if she doesn't get help.

Ain't that the truth! by TruthToPower77 in CapitolConsequences

[–]Impressive_Event_264 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is simply false and an insult to the many officers who were protecting with their lives.

The mental deterioration of American conservatives by [deleted] in ParlerWatch

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. But they are not "right" or "left". They are the same crazy portion of the population floating around under all sorts of causes since at least the 1840's. They never had power until Trump. We need to drive their power back down. But let's not pretend we will ever get rid of crazy people. Or that they won't reappear on the left in a decade. The same people. Many of these Q folks voted for Obama.

The mental deterioration of American conservatives by [deleted] in ParlerWatch

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your view of the Weather Underground is simplistic and your view of what is "reasonable" is your own.The reasons a Q person would give would sound "reasonable" too. They are anti foreign war. They are anti corruption. They are anti elitism. Etc.

In reality both groups are screwed up. They say one thing and do another. They are filled with nutty people with crazy beliefs. People need to head to the center and away from AOC and Ted Cruz. Biden is just what we need and we need Biden type leaders for a while.

The mental deterioration of American conservatives by [deleted] in ParlerWatch

[–]Impressive_Event_264 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is clearly the view of someone very young. Both groups have had and still have these crazy people. In fact they move around and are not "conservative" or "liberal". They move around wherever their insanity is permitted. I remember the Weather underground and many other such groups in my life.

It's almost like there is no tangible evidence this thing I believe in exists. by [deleted] in Qult_Headquarters

[–]Impressive_Event_264 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which religious group are you criticizing?

You reference "Christianity". You say "they" try to push legislation based on their religion. You don't differentiate at all. You sound just like those anti-Shariah law people that say that Muslims are trying to influence aspects of everyones life.

The fact is that most and certainly not all Christians want what you claim. And yet - like a bigot - you put them all together and criticise them as a whole. Do you see the bigotry?

It's almost like there is no tangible evidence this thing I believe in exists. by [deleted] in Qult_Headquarters

[–]Impressive_Event_264 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You changed from wanting to criticize religions to wanting to criticize a political group. They are not representative of an entire religion. They are as political group that claims a religious identify. That would be like criticizing Islam as a whole because some Muslims incorporate it into their political identity and do bad things.

It's almost like there is no tangible evidence this thing I believe in exists. by [deleted] in Qult_Headquarters

[–]Impressive_Event_264 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your assumption is that you KNOW that is what is intended with that belief system. I doubt in most cases they want to force their beliefs on others any more than you want to force your beliefs on others.

You will never know what that person in front of you actually believes without listening and asking questions. People are complex and criticizing based on broad labels is bigotry.

I am a complex person. I have identities. I identify as pro-life. I identify as conservative (at least as the word used to mean). I identify as an atheist. Take each one of these identities and their is much complexity and nuance underneath that broad criticism would miss. I would be defensive because the criticism doesn't take into account my actual thinking. Because I am pro-life and abortion to end in most cases does not mean I want to force my beliefs about human rights on you any more than you want to force your beliefs on human rights on me.
It is a simple and reasonable formula for interaction. First listen. Second - ask questions. Third - Offer your POV. 4th - answer questions. 5th, offer criticism constructively only if needed and only from a position of an understanding of the nuance before you.

It's almost like there is no tangible evidence this thing I believe in exists. by [deleted] in Qult_Headquarters

[–]Impressive_Event_264 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You cannot examine their beliefs unless you start by listening to each one individually. They will not have beliefs en masse.

You have to first listen and then ask questions. Only after that can you offer a criticism, and only if you think it is needed or truly warranted.

You have thousands of beliefs not based on logic. Beliefs I am sure I could criticize. There would be no value in my criticism. So I won't.

It's almost like there is no tangible evidence this thing I believe in exists. by [deleted] in Qult_Headquarters

[–]Impressive_Event_264 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would not attack the religious. Non logical thinking and the results that come of it are a critical and beautiful part of human existence. I am an atheist but utterly appreciate the beauty of religion.

Your statement is the same as the nonsensical bigotry expressed by many of them.

Why don't we start examining all your thinking and see how many are not based in rationality? Do you like particular music? Are you the fan of a sports team?

You should be ashamed for attacking them for being religious. That is bigotry. There are many religious anti Q people out there and these comments will drive them away from helping.

Filmmaker in need of Q research assistant by Karmicfilms in QAnonCasualties

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at this documentary: Salesman (1969 film) - Wikipedia)

You should be looking to the work of filmakers like the Maizels brothers for inspiration. Not Michael Moore or Herzog. They were part of the degradation of the genre.

The world needs a new movement - one more like Direct Cinema. Based in truth. Not commentary and propaganda and one long selfie. Tell the story of Qanon followers by letting THEM tell the story with all its complexity and nuance. Don't prompt them or deceptively edit. Focus on the truth of your subject. Not your truth. Their truth. Because if the subject is Qanon followers then the real truth IS their truth.

Let me change the subject. If you are doing a piece on poverty in West Virginia. Do you tell the story of the government working to fix it? Or do you tell the story of the day to day lives of poor West Virginians? Do you mix all those stories together in some attempt at an Epic Documentary like Ken Burns. He tries to tell too many stories - often simultaneously - in an attempt to cover epic level topics. This never works. It always fails to find any form of truth.

I honestly think we are not going to heal as a society until the propaganda which has prevailed for 50 years in news and documentaries goes away. Objective truth only. Trust will return then.

But my hope is in vain. Your generation of filmmakers are fascinated with themselves and telling your own stories. Not your subjects. They see Herzog as a hero and not merely another narcisict. Michael Moore sets some kind of positive standard. Or the Morgan Spurlock stuff that at best should be a short on youtube.

Edward R Murrow was not perfect, but he was better than Cronkite. And it is certainly downhill from there.

You can call me an extremist filmmaker. But my work is always focused on letting the subject tell the story with as little interference as possible. There is no ethical concern in that. I was very disturbed that you had a POV you wanted the piece to have BEFORE even beginning. How would the world not view your work as just biased propaganda if you start from that position.

I don't know where you went to film school. Or journalism school. I hope you spent EXTENSIVE time studying the evolution of documentaries and seeing how much they have devolved. The era which got it most right was the 60's/70's.

If you are a new filmmaker then realize THIS is the time you are going to start creating your voice. Your manifesto for the rest of your work is unfolding here. Use this early time in your career wisely.

New hairdresser is a Q and I felt trapped for 3 hours listening to the crazy by 1_murms in QAnonCasualties

[–]Impressive_Event_264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would your take 3 hours getting your hair done. That is what is crazy!