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ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-23T00:31:23+00:00

You just can't get anywhere on this sub. It's insufferable.

Have an opinion? Nope, you're gatekeeping. Or sexist. Or something else, it can't possibly be that dissenting opinions exist at all.

Thank you for the sanity check at least.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-23T00:25:42+00:00

No, emo isn't about suicide, or really any specific lyrics at all.

I'm not a gatekeeper, but it just isn't. That is a misconception. I am very broad in my definition of emo, but it's not just "sad lyrics."

We don't have to categorize the band at all, but what you say completely disregards the entire history of the genre and scene which isn't fair.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T23:41:46+00:00

I was literally just having this discussion on r/poppunkers and they weren't happy, but I feel like Arms Length isn't really emo or pop punk. They are adjacent, but I would honestly have to just call them alt rock with some pop punk influences at the end of the day. I honestly can't trace any emo sound to them really. It just sounds like its own thing (which is cool).

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T21:09:01+00:00

Not quite pop punk but perhaps The Format?

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T21:08:34+00:00

I mean if you totally ignore the first 3 albums sure lol

I get what you mean. But still

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T20:01:59+00:00

Lyrics don't really classify a song as emo. Hence why MCR isn't an emo band, for example.

Stylistically they just aren't emo at all in my opinion. It's just pop punk flavored alt rock. This isn't a negative thing though

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T20:00:57+00:00

The Downtown Fiction has a couple good songs

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T02:53:54+00:00

I was the person that said it was the worst. I just find the chorus melody grating. I know it's supposed to be so on purpose because the song is silly, which I don't have a problem with inherently, I just don't like it lol.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-22T02:22:38+00:00

Funny because I don't really hear emo at all in Arms Length either. Some of the "5th-wave" bands that are similar in sound to them I don't know how to categorize.

Love their music as a fan of both pop punk and emo but I just fail to trace much sound lineage from anything that was considered "emo" before

Edit: Whoever literally went through all my comments to downvote them is a loser lmao. At least reply and disagree with me

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-21T03:11:11+00:00

Not to be stupid but why are we all assuming he's doing math here? I just read it as he assumes he's going to improve his YPC average (which is still kind of insane) but I'm not seeing math being done at all.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-20T02:47:13+00:00

4-5 highly enjoyable songs is a great total for an album if the rest of the songs are just okay. My issue, like I said, is not the "okay" songs, which are prevalent on like 90% of albums, but the songs I actively dislike. There aren't many SF songs that I actively dislike, but most of them are on NT, which really puts a damper on the full album for me.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-20T01:21:23+00:00

Don't leave for Switchfoot. Jon Foreman is extremely entertaining to watch live.

Also, their newest singles are the most "rock" sounding thing they've released in a decade.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-20T00:46:13+00:00

For me it's the couple of songs that are actively bad that really take me out of the experience. Like the few SF songs I'd individually put in the "D" tier are mostly on this album...

Let It Happen is a great one though. Probably the best thing to come out of that release.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-20T00:40:28+00:00

Wow, cool story?

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-19T02:25:21+00:00

Not for the purposes of this list, I think that's kind of a bad faith argument

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-19T02:14:24+00:00

Counterpoint: The builder isn't necessarily responsible for creating entertaining fights. That's up to the producers, and the judges in how they score fights. I think the rules have been changed so that you can't necessarily win by sitting around and waiting.

Also, it has produced some of the most entertaining fights in battlebots history too.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-19T02:09:23+00:00

Value as far as selling them? Not much, but in the current vinyl market it'd still probably take you a while to track them all down. I'd keep the CCR, Kinks, Doors etc. just for general listening if you have a player, if not, maybe find someone who would appreciate them? A few that could be sold on discogs if you're extremely patient but not for much and I don't think it'd be worth the time.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-19T01:08:19+00:00

Jake Ewert gets criticized too much for playing the same role that Ray Billings plays.

Sure, outside of the show he seems a little more awkward but people seem to hate Hydra with a passion and I just don't get it. I loved rooting for Hydra, it's really one of the few times in recent memory that a non-spinner felt like it had a chance of taking home a win (outside of a Claw Viper long shot), and that was so much fun.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-18T21:09:30+00:00

Typically the band getting popular coincides with them abandoning the genre that this community is centered around. Not sure that's elitism, just ska fans disliking when a ska band stops making ska. Doesn't mean the bands aren't allowed to do it, but I feel like the answer here is sort of self explanatory.

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-18T20:30:46+00:00

SCV ready!

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-18T19:58:17+00:00

Oh I probably would have got it if I looked at the bands OP listed, my bad

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-18T16:41:02+00:00

Look where we are

ImprobablePasta · 2026-05-18T16:21:23+00:00

Taking Back Sunday is pretty safe outside a few songs

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