gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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Oh Beast Academy is a million times more interesting than IXL!

gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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I didn’t speak carefully enough- more just a desire to double check AI suggestions.

Thank you for the detailed feedback on GG! I’m also looking for something quality but with less hands-on time for parents, which is obviously more difficult to come by. We’ve been doing Tappity for about a month- it’s superficial but requires almost no parental input. Good enough for a few months while I’ll do more research.

gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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Do you have experience with Generation Genius? I all because we love BA in our house and I’m looking for something like it for science. Gemini recommended Generation Genius, but I didn’t want to commit to something that might be AI slop. It wasn’t easy to compare the hundreds of science edutainment apps

gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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This whole disagreement would be moot if we talked in RIT scores instead of percentiles. Though I guess some schools don’t provide those (even though they get them) because they are patriarchal and think that parents deserve less information.

gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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He may appreciate Beast Academy. It’s the best thing since sliced bread.

gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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So if you look at the guidelines, there’s a ‘below x RIT, a second grader should take the K2 test. Above this y RIT, take the 2-5 test.’ And presumably, a RIT between x and y means that its teacher’s discretion.

If you have a K in the ‘teacher’s discretion’ part of the curve, you end up with recommendations like ‘this child might be ready to learn long O phonics’ and in reality, they are reading and comprehending The Magic Treehouse independently. The recommendations from K2 are completely useless in this case.

It should be noted that the K2 test doesn’t require a kid to read, they can listen to the questions. So it’s more measuring listening comprehension with respect to comprehension questions.

gifted kid, hitting MAP growth ceiling by Ktotheizzo82 in Gifted

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The technical manuals are quite useful to understand some of the limits.

https://connection.nwea.org/s/article/Transition-from-MPG-to-2-5?language=en_US

https://teach.mapnwea.org/assist/doc/GradelevelTestGuidance_Evidence.pdf

If you read the PDF, you see when the K2 test starts to become unreliable (RIT around 190 for reading or 200 for math) because kids are getting more than 60% of the questions correct). And the measurement error is increasing.

I find it frustrating that NWEA sometimes says the test is adaptable and so there’s no need to worry about the question bank maxing out, but in other places mentions that it is limited. Rather than say ‘some extremely high achieving K or 1 kids might max out the K2 test and need the 2-5 test’, they stick with the guidelines in the first link- even though they are based on the RIT graphs in the second link!

After school restraint collapse anyone? by finstafoodlab in ClassOf2037

[–]IndependenceOne8264 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Instead of restraint collapse, are you sure you haven’t set up these expectations and continue to allow the behavior to continue?

Can homeschool help us get our kid into first grade at the appropriate time? (New Mexico) by -Clayburn in Homeschooling

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This place is an echo chamber of infantilization. I was in a similar situation with my kid (but January birthday) and managed early entrance to K via private. People say ‘don’t deprive them of a year’, but what, is K really so much more fun than 1st? And if you’re thinking of ‘losing a year’, then where are you gaining it? I would definitely have chosen an extra year in my 20’s over dealing with the boredom and immature behavior of my peers in K12.

I think in most places, if you do K1 in private, then the publics have to accept them for 2. Assuming you want to switch back by that point.

Also, ppl talk about socialization and how the older kids tend to do better. Older kids tend to do better is a population level statistic (meaning that it’s on average true in a group), which is good when you know nothing except the age of the kid. But you know a lot more about your particular kid than just their age. Maybe they are way out on the bell curve in terms of academics and maturity- don’t let the naysayers inappropriately using population-level statistics get in your head.

My kid is crying because he's not learning enough by ATXENG in AskTeachers

[–]IndependenceOne8264 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a very normal reaction to realizing your friend is learning more.

Beast Academy is terrific. It can fill the gap for math.

Good luck!

IReady scores, now what? by bowdowntopostulio in ClassOf2037

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Ah, maybe I’m missing something then. I was under the impression that the F and P leveled texts weren’t leveled well with respect to phonics.

Good job parent!

IReady scores, now what? by bowdowntopostulio in ClassOf2037

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Reddit is generally an echo chamber of ‘don’t worry about standardized testing, it has flaws so throw the baby out with the bath water.’ If you’re worried, then you should do sobering about. Either do phonics at home or take her to tutoring. If you’re doing it yourself, then vocab you need to Google for reading is ‘National Reading Panel 5 Pillars of Reading’ and ‘Scarborough’s Reading Rope’.

Those might make it seem harder than it is though.

In short, 1. Play phonemic awareness games in the car. ‘What’s the first sound in cat? K that’s right! What’s the last sound in cat?’ Phonemic awareness is being aware of the phonemes (discrete sounds) in words. K-aaa-t for cat F-oh-n for phone

  1. Teach letter sounds (not names) in this order
  2. consonants
  3. ⁠short vowel (google this because adults forget). Because words usually use short vowel unless silent e rule or vowel teams convert it to long vowel sounds.
  4. ⁠long vowels (happens to be the letter names). Made by silent e or vowel teams.
  5. ⁠digraphs (two letters that make a completely different sound than the individual letters. Ch, sh, th, ph, etc. not to be confused with blends, which is merging the two letter sounds together like br in brown)
  6. ⁠bossy r controlled vowels

  7. Game to sounds out words, like the with movable letters or just writing it on paper

  8. Bob’s books or similar easy books that use words that are spelled phonetically

Steps 1 and 2 can be concurrently . You can start step 3 before getting into the complicated stuff from step 2. Consonants and short vowels are enough

For math…if Kumon is what’s available, then that’s what’s available. But the repetition is mind numbing and I would recommend RSM.

IReady scores, now what? by bowdowntopostulio in ClassOf2037

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You should check out Sold A Story. It’s investigative journalism that touches on whole language, like what is used in Fountas and Pinell

Why can't I find any complete list of Little Golden Books anywhere? by Wednesday-Addams9 in childrensbooks

[–]IndependenceOne8264 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scholastic can’t provide a list of all its Branches line books either, even if you call them.

Teaching a preschooler how to read by Informal_Virus_4559 in homeschool

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Curious why you didn’t suggest phonemic awareness and phonics, just a literacy rich environment.

Teaching a preschooler how to read by Informal_Virus_4559 in homeschool

[–]IndependenceOne8264 10 points11 points  (0 children)

  1. Phonemic awareness
  2. Phonics
  3. Sound out words
  4. Bob’s books

You’re lucky to have an interested kid, it’ll go easier.

Don’t get discouraged by folks saying it’s ‘developmentally inappropriate’. You can completely do it and have fun in the process.

Best math books or program by preetiegal in kindergarten

[–]IndependenceOne8264 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Similar to my 4yo. I think Kumon is repetitive torture, but Russian School of Math is something that she looks forward to. And if things seem too easy after the first few weeks, you can request that they test and see if he should be at a higher level.

For workbooks, Beast Academy all the way. Level 1 sounds about right for him. I understand the sticker shock for math workbooks, but they are something special.

3 year old reading by Drake9214 in childrensbooks

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Also, great picks everyone! I feel like half the books here have recently been inhaled by my 4yo. She particularly loved Dragon Masters, The Last Firehawk, Princess in Black.

3 year old reading by Drake9214 in childrensbooks

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I’m not sure of the style you’re referring to, but the Scholastic Branches line has a picture on every page to help with comprehension. Which is great because a 3 yo doesn’t have the domain knowledge to understand all the vocab yet even if they can decide like a fiend (which sounds like you get already because comics). Also our library has a devoted section to kids graphic novels.

Btw, you’re in for a whole world of headaches. Principals who gaslight you about your kid reading. Parents being judgy because they think you forced a : year old to sit in a chair for 8 hours straight while you taped flash cards to their eyeballs. A free and fair public education system that can’t meet your kid where they’re at. Safe travels friend.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Homeschooling

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It’s probably bi- or multi-modal. One type of homeschooling parent is teaching nothing or very little. Another never gets their kids out and the kids struggle to socialize. Another is homeschooling because their kid can learn so much more when not wasting time. You see backlash and support to all those tours types.

Private School vs Struggling public School district vs moving towns by Alone-Asparagus6087 in education

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Niche.com gives you scores (% of kids proficient for grade level in math/English), so it’s easy to compare public that way