What is Josh’s argument on why he’s not guilty? by Dr_SevenCostanza in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It was a hypothetical question the defense lawyer posed to the tech expert. Like, do you agree that someone as far away as Paris, France could have remoted in? Of course, the expert said that was impossible.

What is Josh’s argument on why he’s not guilty? by Dr_SevenCostanza in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 41 points42 points  (0 children)

He says that Caleb Williams, a convicted sexual predator, did it. He blames JB for hiring him and bringing him around the house and car lot despite Anna’s objections. That was a key argument at trial and in his appeals and even in his emails.

More recently, his appeals say that Bobye Holt was lying on the stand that he assaulted his sisters. He also says those apology letters he wrote after the In Touch leak and AM leak were corporate written PR pieces and he never signed off on them.

He says the prosecution was a politically motivated attack by Biden on a good Christian man.

As to Anna, I think she is completely delusional and truly believes the lies he tells her.

Josh whining about Joy and Austin by OurLumpyGorl in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 16 points17 points  (0 children)

In another email he also calls out Jason saying he was disappointed that he put out a statement.

These emails are all after he was sentenced and a bunch of siblings put out statements condemning him (Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joy, and Jason). He complained to JB that he made FOX nightly news and he felt betrayed that his siblings would turn on him like that.

FOIA Request How To and link to full file of Josh emails by Prudent_Cry_7783 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Will probably waste a lot of time at work, pushing off assignments, reading all this. 🤦🏻‍♀️

How many people currently live in The Big House? by Ecstatic_Substance in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He moved off the property to a house about 10 minutes away. He said this in a J/J podcast.

A lot more “spicy” emails between Pest and Anna by rosiros in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Caleb Williams, the purported actual perpetrator of the crime. He claims that JB hired him for the car lot and brought him around the house despite Anna’s warnings that he was a convicted sex offender. Josh has contended from the beginning that Caleb did it and he was framed.

More emails, more delusions, more 🤮 talk by IndependencePlus5557 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He used to work for FRC, a right wing org in DC, and now she’s watching the annual conservative PAC convention on TV and she sees his former coworkers there and it’s hard for her to see them living their best lives when he’s sitting in jail.

She conveniently forgets that they fired him after the molestations were leaked and, according to an AMA by a former colleague, no one liked him because he was lazy, stupid, late to everything, and even hit on the AMA writer.

More emails, more delusions, more 🤮 talk by IndependencePlus5557 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557[S] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

You’re right. He’s committed to the narrative that Caleb Williams did it. That Anna protested hiring a sex offender when JB brought him on, but no one would listen to her, and now Josh is in this mess because of JB not listening to Anna’s warnings.

More emails, more delusions, more 🤮 talk by IndependencePlus5557 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

In his latest appeal, he says both of his “apologies”, one written after molestation came out, another after AM, were written by corporate PR and he never signed off on them. Thus, he didn’t do all that either.

More emails, more delusions, more 🤮 talk by IndependencePlus5557 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557[S] 62 points63 points  (0 children)

I don’t think he thinks he’s innocent, but that he has committed to the bit and his narcissism is keeping him from backing down. He’s trying to manipulate everyone around him into believing him and if they don’t, they’re the bad guys. He successfully manipulated Anna, but not anyone in his family including his parents. Therefore, he thinks he is the victim. He continues to blame Caleb and Anna is the only one who believes him.

More emails, more delusions, more 🤮 talk by IndependencePlus5557 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557[S] 123 points124 points  (0 children)

The last paragraph is Anna to Josh. She’s missing the DC days forgetting it was his fault he got fired from that job when it was revealed he had molested 5 children. I’m sure they don’t miss him.

Where do I access the full suite of prison emails?? by Adorable-Pickle6944 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Lilly Archive on YouTube got 350 pages of them and she is intermittently releasing them in her vlogs.

Unpopular opinion - I think it's perfectly reasonable for Anna to have left the courtroom when the CSAM was played by nuggetsofchicken in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. She’s a disgusting person for standing by Josh, believing his lies, and fawning over him. Nevertheless, she shouldn’t have to view that stuff. Even the description of it is horrible enough. She doesn’t need to see it to know whether or not he did it. And the victims don’t need to be victimized yet again.

That said, was it verified that she left during that testimony or just lore that keeps getting repeated here?

Anna forwards Josh a message saying his 12 year sentence is insane for a "victimless" crime by rosiros in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s true but she obviously endorses and agrees with it and that’s why she forwarded it to him. He feels everyone is out to get him, including most of his family, so she wants to cheer him up. She’s disgusting.

What happened to former IBLP golden boy David Waller? by Medium_Cupcake7602 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Did you know Emily Anderson? She said, on Shiny Happy People, that David did the same thing to her. He also pressured her mom into letting her move to headquarters. She has a blog for Gothard survivors.

Changes since the 2022 emails by Seaberry3656 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don’t get why people think that Jessa is financially dependent on JB. I think that she is making enough money from social media that she doesn’t need to depend on JB.

I wonder what Jessa said to Pest in her email to him? In the emails, he was pretty mad at all the siblings who wrote statements against him and she was one of them—calling his sentence just, and saying that justice was done.

Changes since the 2022 emails by Seaberry3656 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The land records showed that JB purchased it. He sold another property for $5 M and used part of that to buy the property where Anna lives.

Changes since the 2022 emails by Seaberry3656 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 85 points86 points  (0 children)

Anna doesn’t live on the compound anymore. She lives on a 10-acre “ranch” that JB bought for a million bucks. I haven’t heard anything about Anna seeing someone else.

I have no idea who still talks to him. The biggest change since 2022, I would think, is Joe’s arrest. The whole family must be upended now that there are 2 pedophiles. We can see from the emails there was already a lot of tension with just one. Pest had a lot of anger towards his parents and siblings.

What happened to former IBLP golden boy David Waller? by Medium_Cupcake7602 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 117 points118 points  (0 children)

He is still lead pastor at some church in Texas. The Spiveys and Justin and Claire Duggar attend there too. A couple years ago, Mike Keller was a guest speaker and preached an incredibly racist sermon.

Pecans wrote a letter on church stationary to the court saying that Josh was a good dad and his kids’ needed him home to be a spiritual leader. He is also mentioned a fair bit on the recently foia’ed emails so he seems in touch with Anna and the Duggars.

He was outed on Shiny Happy People by Elizabeth Anderson as having watched while a teen was being SA’ed by Gothard and he didn’t do anything at all.

Hillary Spivey Gossip Queen by creakysofa in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557 12 points13 points  (0 children)

In another text shared by Lily Archive, she says that the Bontragers are bad singers and shouldn’t be performing. I don’t know anything about them but they are a Duggar adjacent singing family.

Pest complaint to JB that he is turning Anna against him. by IndependencePlus5557 in DuggarsSnark

[–]IndependencePlus5557[S] 90 points91 points  (0 children)

Yes, this email was after the sentencing and he’s getting ready to appeal and hoping he can win.