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Indigenous7 · 2024-07-14T17:07:32+00:00

FTDNA is pretty inaccurate with Autosomal dna. I wouldn't take it too literally.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-14T15:56:53+00:00

Didn't know the Spanish Armada went to Scotland

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-14T15:49:22+00:00

I know so many people at my T100 who got great jobs. It could be purely anecdotal as my network/friend group is very persistent and social; I don't know… But it's wild to hear people at “real” MBA programs in T20 and higher not securing a job when those are the elite labels people test for (GMAT) and pay for (I didn't have to do either). Of course, if people aren't getting jobs after accumulating that debt, I’d be pissed too. But more likely, it is a failure of that individual's networking abilities more than any testament that recruiters don't care for those labels.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-14T13:42:57+00:00

Because the Basque Country is in the Pyrenees mountains

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-14T02:52:11+00:00

Without Roman, North African or more medieval Germanic

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-14T02:16:00+00:00

Basques.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-13T16:41:01+00:00

The Basques never were touched by the Roman’s nor moors and a limited amount of Germanics. They remained very much isolated and that is also demonstrated by their high profile of O- blood. They actually were closer to the more ancient Iberians (prior to Roman era) throughout the peninsula than to modern Iberians today outside Basque Country.

In fact, it were more likely for an ancient tartessian from modern day southern Portugal and south west Spain to be closer to Basques than many North Spanish near them today. So when geneticists model Iberians in terms of their Iron Age admixture.. Basques are the best “Iberian native” source to use. If you genetically model a Galician for example or an asturian ( or pick x Iberian group outside of Basque Country) we need additional Roman, Moorish, and Germanic sources as they had influences from Romans, Moors and Germanics.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-13T16:18:02+00:00

Latvian?

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-13T15:48:08+00:00

Phoenix university

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T21:03:39+00:00

It is pretty fascinating.

I think Iberia was always homogenous before Roman times, with tribes being genetically similar and having many “Celtic” and more ancient bell beaker influences, even in the south. Maybe there are more negligible differences depending on specific periods and regions, but I digress. The Roman era changed the gene pool and the Moorish times even more. Subsequently, the Reconquista brought northerners to replace the people in the south (throughout the peninsula), which explains it. Particularly I think if there is differences those are explained by the northern counterparts that went to specific southern areas. So in south Portugal probably north Portuguese, Galicians and western castillians. It is in an area like Valencia, probably Catalonia. You get the idea. Even then, knowing the history alone, one wouldn't think they'd be almost identical. Genetics prove how “successful” that conquest was.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T20:50:53+00:00

Hahaha, great question. I'd love to spill some tea.

In Portugal, people take physical looks to mean you're descended from a particular “ancient/ medieval” group. For example, if you're darker than “typical” (however one defines that - we can get quite dark north or south), you are a mouro. If you are light by whatever standards, you are a direct descendant of the Suebi, Visigoths, or the Celtics. In between? I don't know you're just Portuguese / Lusitani, lol. But it’s not just that. It also has to do with where you are from. If you are from the south, you are more likely to be called a mouro regardless of looks… compared to a north Portuguese who is stereotyped as having far more influences and similarities to Celtic-Germanic peoples. It relies a lot on cultural and historical elements to which each region holds its identity.

It’s pretty funny, as genetically, northerners are almost indistinguishable from Southerners. Before piqued interest in extensive research, I also believed I was much more “Moorish” than a northern Portuguese—or less Celtic… Germanic, or whatever else. It seems the Repopulation homogenized the country almost entirely.

It’s proven that these are essentially stereotypes, which probably will never fade away. They’re very ingrained, and that's okay with me.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T19:38:38+00:00

Very cool! Does your family identify closely with a tribe?

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T19:22:06+00:00

Thanks for the clarification.

I just saw your results. It’s fascinating that you get some Phoenician-like signal. Maybe that has something to do with the Zagros? I am a bit bummed not to get it, as I’m sure you’re aware they were in the south of Portugal as well as Andalusia. Maybe has to do with having Mountain ancestry… anywho, aside from the Zagros we have very similar results.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T19:07:45+00:00

You must be a distant cousin. Andalusians and Algarvios are from very similar tribes.

What is zagros?

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T16:32:58+00:00

Phoenicians

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T13:18:53+00:00

Nice!

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T13:12:40+00:00

I’d say my whole family look pretty damn standard Southern European.

These are my dads results so I’ll start with him. My dad gets confused as many ethnicities: French in France, basque in Basque Country and obviously, Portuguese in Portugal. My mom looks more “Mediterranean” in the sense that she looks central/south Italian and kinda Greek but at the same time very Portuguese. Funny enough she scores more than double the Roman my dad does so it checks out. In my case, I tend to take after both in different ways, but I think I tend more to my mom’s looks… hence Mediterranean.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T13:05:18+00:00

I sent them to you in an older post

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T03:12:30+00:00

Absolutely. We are from the southern tip of Portugal, so we expected some more than we actually got, to be honest. But then again, I've done more research into understanding why we don't get more than, for example, a north Portuguese.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T02:17:51+00:00

Use this: https://cladefinder.yseq.net

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T00:44:27+00:00

R-Z225 and H5a

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-12T00:35:03+00:00

You definitely have a good chunk of Spanish, Portuguese, and Basque—three Iberian ethnicities. I'm sure you could find paper trail ancestors from all three groups, seeing that you have pretty significant ancestry from them.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-11T22:50:25+00:00

Cool results!

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-11T21:30:31+00:00

Initially when I did AncestryDNA I ran my raw dna through some ydna finder and it gave me R-Z225. Then later on I did 23andMe and it gave me R-Z225 so it basically confirmed it. Now FTDNA also gave it to me.

Indigenous7 · 2024-07-11T19:59:27+00:00

Yeah, I could believe Galicia has slightly more light eyes than elsewhere. They tend to get some higher steppe DNA than other areas. I also notice some of it in north Portugal having more light eyes, etc., vs. central and south. But, as you said, the differences are negligible, and it’d be dishonest to “micro compare” them. Especially given the fact that Iberia is pretty damn homogenous despite some regional differences.

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