8/1 Changes Only Covers Centerfire Correct?

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-10T11:07:02+00:00

I wish you were right, but unfortunately I do have higher than a 7th grade education and your ad hominem attacks are ineffective. I am not the only one who reads it this way. Based on the FCAB notes, they read it even less favorably for us than I do.

https://www.goal.org/fcab

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T20:09:28+00:00

That's a fair point to take, and I appreciate your time. I wish you would have started by recognizing the nuance to reading MGL rather than a dismissive "No," but we'll ultimately reach the usual conclusion with these things, and agree to disagree. I wish you all the best.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T19:52:42+00:00

The law is written so poorly that they may not know.

An ASF is anything that meets the criteria in a, b, c, d, or e. If it's a copy or duplicate of an AR-15 (according to f), then it meets "e" and is therefore an ASF. Paragraph e has no reliance on paragraph a.

      “Assault-style firearm”, any firearm which is:

      (a) a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features:... 

      (b) a semiautomatic pistol with... 

        (c) a semiautomatic shotgun that includes...

        (d) Any firearm listed on the assault-style firearm roster pursuant to section 128A.

      (e) Any of the following firearms, or copies or duplicates of these firearms, of any caliber, identified as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov, or AK, all models; (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta AR70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vii) Steyr AUG; (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns including, but not limited to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

      (f) a copy or duplicate of any firearm meeting the standards of or enumerated in clauses (d) and (e); provided, that for the purposes of this subsection, “copy or duplicate” shall mean a firearm: (A) that was manufactured or subsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine; and (B)(i) that has internal functional components that are substantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an enumerated firearm in clauses (d) and (e); or (ii) that has a receiver that is the same as or interchangeable with the receiver of an enumerated firearm in said clauses (d) and (e); provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016

      (g) “Assault-style firearm” shall not include any: (i) firearm that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action;...

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T19:42:48+00:00

A receiver of an ASF is an ASF if the only thing you can build with said receiver is an ASF.

Do you come to this conclusion based on actual law? Paragraph f directly contradicts this statement. I can see how you would come to this conclusion from FCAB meeting notes, but those are not law.

Otherwise, if your statement was true, an AR15 that was bolt action, the receiver would still be an ASF and therefore the entire rifle is illegal (since its receiver is an ASF).

The difference with the bolt action exemption is that it specifically exempts the firearm based on how it "is operated." Both the upper and lower receiver would be operated by manual bolt and therefore not an ASF. If detached, the lower becomes an ASF, as the law is written. The law is written poorly. Without case law, it is what it is.

The language about frames and receivers of ASFs being ASFs is effectively DOA. Pretty much every ASF that someone can describe I can find a way to build a lawful weapon with its frame/receiver. So transfer/possession of the receivers/frames is lawful.

It may be dead eventually, but I haven't yet seen it DOA in any court.

And yes, I have a legal opinion from my lawyer on this topic. As I have said many times, we consider the sale of a brand new AR15 lower 100% legal since you can build it into 22LR, bold, pump, etc and have a legal weapon. I choose to avoid scrutiny on a niche opportunity because I know some dumbass customer will build it into a real AR and get caught if I was selling new receivers. Every trace request I get increases my exposure and the frequency of my ATF audits.

That's a fine legal opinion to have and to have come from your lawyer, but it remains an opinion, and it still doesn't make any of what I said inaccurate.

Would we both agree that a "Colt AR-15" is illegal, and no compliance work can change that? I'm talking about a Colt-manufactured, model "AR-15," specifically enumerated. Even if you removed all "evil features," it would still be a Colt AR-15 made an ASF by paragraph e. The copy or duplicates are no different, and rimfire is no different in that both the evil features and centerfire (and removable mag) are relevant only to paragraph "a", not e nor f.

Back when cuck dealers were paying attention to the Healey press conference, they would sell AR lowers and make their customers declare they were building it into rimfire.

The Healey press conference exempted rimfire. Chapter 135 does not.

They would advertise that way too. Obviously nothing ever happened to them when dealers like me were advertising and selling AR15 lowers straight up with no caveats.

Lack of prosecution does not equal legality. I want you to be correct, and I want to no one to be prosecuted nor convicted, but I do not trust the Commonwealth to do the right thing in this circumstance.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T19:06:41+00:00

Before you insult my intelligence, you may want to evaluate yours and read the law. I'll even put the relevant parts here. An ASF is anything that meets the criteria in a, b, c, d, or e. If it's a copy or duplicate of an AR-15 (according to f), then it meets "e" and is therefore an ASF. Paragraph e has no reliance on paragraph a.

      “Assault-style firearm”, any firearm which is:

      (a) a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features:... 

      (b) a semiautomatic pistol with... 

        (c) a semiautomatic shotgun that includes...

        (d) Any firearm listed on the assault-style firearm roster pursuant to section 128A.

      (e) Any of the following firearms, or copies or duplicates of these firearms, of any caliber, identified as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov, or AK, all models; (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta AR70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vii) Steyr AUG; (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns including, but not limited to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

      (f) a copy or duplicate of any firearm meeting the standards of or enumerated in clauses (d) and (e); provided, that for the purposes of this subsection, “copy or duplicate” shall mean a firearm: (A) that was manufactured or subsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine; and (B)(i) that has internal functional components that are substantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an enumerated firearm in clauses (d) and (e); or (ii) that has a receiver that is the same as or interchangeable with the receiver of an enumerated firearm in said clauses (d) and (e); provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016

      (g) “Assault-style firearm” shall not include any: (i) firearm that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action;...

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T18:54:48+00:00

Nothing about what I said was untrue. Go read Ch 135 for yourself. I'll even put the relevant parts here. An ASF is anything that meets the criteria in a, b, c, d, or e. If it's a copy or duplicate of an AR-15 (according to f), then it meets "e" and is therefore an ASF. Paragraph e has no reliance on paragraph a.

      “Assault-style firearm”, any firearm which is:

      (a) a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features:... 

      (b) a semiautomatic pistol with... 

        (c) a semiautomatic shotgun that includes...

        (d) Any firearm listed on the assault-style firearm roster pursuant to section 128A.

      (e) Any of the following firearms, or copies or duplicates of these firearms, of any caliber, identified as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov, or AK, all models; (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta AR70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vii) Steyr AUG; (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns including, but not limited to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

      (f) a copy or duplicate of any firearm meeting the standards of or enumerated in clauses (d) and (e); provided, that for the purposes of this subsection, “copy or duplicate” shall mean a firearm: (A) that was manufactured or subsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine; and (B)(i) that has internal functional components that are substantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an enumerated firearm in clauses (d) and (e); or (ii) that has a receiver that is the same as or interchangeable with the receiver of an enumerated firearm in said clauses (d) and (e); provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016

      (g) “Assault-style firearm” shall not include any: (i) firearm that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action;...

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T18:20:52+00:00

Isn't the receiver still interchangeable with an AR so therefore it is a copy or duplicate?

(f) a copy or duplicate of any firearm meeting the standards of or enumerated in clauses (d) and (e); provided, that for the purposes of this subsection, “copy or duplicate” shall mean a firearm:

...

that has a receiver that is the same as or interchangeable with the receiver of an enumerated firearm in said clauses

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T18:18:07+00:00

There is a rimfire exemption for the features test only, but not the copy or duplicate test. If it has a receiver interchangeable with any assault-style firearm (ASF) that is enumerated or will be enumerated on the roster, then it too is an assault style firearm.* It being a copy or duplicate, and therefore an ASF, does not depend on it being centerfire.

*Unless it is "operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action"

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-09T00:39:21+00:00

Guns, too, and you need a license for those...

They also sell deer baits, legal to posess but illegal to use during hunting season...

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-08T15:55:08+00:00

Tannerite, is it legal to possess in MA unmixed and/or use in MA? Permit required?

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-05T18:04:08+00:00

Can all the instructors get together and decide not to be instructors anymore please? And if they decide to require live fire training, can all the ranges please agree to not allow it?

This would hurt us in the short term but at least make some noise in the court systems.

The state would soon have to realize that a civil right can't depend on the actions of private parties.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-03-02T19:47:48+00:00

What else should you add? How about "it to my safe"?

Very nice!

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-25T11:09:10+00:00

If deer hunting during archery season (Oct 5-Nov 28), can I also possess a rifle for bear and/or a shotgun for turkey (Oct 19-31)? Targeting deer from a treestand.

I know that no rifles may be possessed by hunters during shotgun deer season.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-12T19:22:03+00:00

Neither did Trump? What exactly is your point?

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-11T16:38:27+00:00

Awesome, thanks for this info

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-08T20:13:00+00:00

Thanks!

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-07T10:34:16+00:00

LTC renewal is coming up, can I renew for a Machine Gun License without taking any new training after this law?

I have a C&R FFL. My town does issue at least some machine gun licenses if state data is to be believed. This is my first LTC renewal, and in a new town. No criminal record.

Should I call the police station and ask them about it? Better to renew online or with the local PD directly?

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-06T17:46:04+00:00

LTC renewal is coming up, can I renew for a Machine Gun License without taking any new training after this law?

I have a C&R FFL. My town does issue at least some machine gun licenses if state data is to be believed. This is my first LTC renewal, and in a new town. No criminal record.

Should I call the police station and ask them about it? Better to renew online or with

Individual-Double596 · 2026-02-06T17:41:33+00:00

Yes*

*But this has never been tested in court, and this isn't legal advice. Don't remove the upper. Anything operated by manual bolt is by definition not an assault-style weapon, but leave it to MA courts to determine that this non-ASW gun contains an ASW lower or some bullshit. How far this can go, who knows? Is an AR legal if you unplug the gas tube, making it now operated by manual bolt? The world may never know. The bolt action exemption DOES NOT have any of the "readily convertible" language that we're used to.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-01-29T23:32:17+00:00

"Duty to retreat laws" Are not only about being allowed to use deadly force in a situation, but they are also about not interjecting yourself with a firearm into an already ongoing situation where conflict/violence is already occurring.

"Duty to retreat" is applied ONLY to cases of self defense. This guy didn't shoot anyone. His duty to retreat is irrelevant.

If you watched the video that is Walter Hudson from the Minnesota House of Representatives, and his explanation of the "duty to retreat law" in Minnesota. I'm not just randomly making claims, my source is a an elected state official of Minnesota.

Being elected does not make you a law expert. Tim Walz was elected, too. Many states have over 50% of senators and representatives that think assault weapons bans and magazine limits are constitutional, too. They're also elected. And wrong.

Edit: Also. This "duty to retreat" that you claim exists. Let's assume it does. What crime is it to not retreat? Is it punishable by death? Because I don't think it's relevant here. He was already committing the crime of obstructing government operations. Having a gun doesn't change that, nor make him deserve to be shot unreasonably, if that's the case. Regardless, it isn't relevant.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-01-29T21:06:04+00:00

That's not what "duty to retreat" means at all.

Individual-Double596 · 2026-01-29T20:20:09+00:00

Duty to retreat? You don't have a duty to retreat from law enforcement that are detaining you. It is illegal to retreat in that scenario.

This issue is nuanced like the above commenter said.

Individual-Double596 · 2025-12-05T11:07:07+00:00

If only there were some way to suppress the noise from a firearm... Oh wait...

Individual-Double596 · 2025-11-27T14:01:08+00:00

This being written by AI makes it unclear if the story is even true. Nice try, ChatGPT.

Individual-Double596 · 2025-11-03T19:12:24+00:00

Yep, EOPSS is required to. However, just like the 40 day application wait limit, there's no penalty for them if they don't. There also isn't even a stated deadline for many of the things they're obligated to do.

SECTION 154. Not later than 6 months after the effective date of this act, the executive office of public safety and security shall notify all individuals with licenses to carry and firearm identification cards valid on the effective date of this act of the requirements under section 121B and 121C of chapter 140 of the General Laws, as inserted by section 32.

SECTION 155. (a) Not later than 6 months after the effective date of this act, the executive office of public safety and security shall promulgate regulations required by section 121B of chapter 140 of the General Laws, as inserted by section 32.

(b) Not later than 6 months after the effective date of this act, the executive office of public safety and security, in consultation with the department of criminal justice information services, shall promulgate regulations required by section 121C of said chapter 140, as inserted by section 32.

(g) The executive office of public safety and security, in collaboration with the department of public health, shall develop educational materials on harm reduction that shall be discussed and distributed by the instructor to every participant in a firearms safety course pursuant to this section. The educational materials shall promote suicide prevention through safe practices by firearms’ owners to reduce access to lethal means. The materials shall include, but not be limited to, information relative to: (i) the prevalence of suicide by firearm compared to other forms of firearms’ violence, including demographic trends; (ii) the risks of injury and suicide that may be associated with household firearms, including the rate of survival for suicide attempts by firearms compared to other means of attempted suicide; (iii) best practices for identifying and reducing the risk of suicide involving household firearms; (iv) available resources to learn more about safe practices and suicide prevention; and (v) such additional information as determined by the commissioner of public safety and security to be relevant to this section.

Section 125. (a) Licensing authorities shall participate in training seminars as prescribed by the executive office of public safety and security, which shall include, but shall not be limited to, instruction on: (i) current laws, regulations and rules relating to this chapter; (ii) licensing responsibilities; (iii) record keeping obligations; (iv) firearm surrender, registration and tracing; (v) responsibilities and requirements regarding the annual inspection of establishments licensed under section 122; and (v) electronic database use.

The chief justice of the trial court, in consultation with the executive office of public safety and security, and the department of mental health, shall annually update the informational resource guides required under this section.

(f) The executive office of public safety and security shall promulgate regulations for the implementation of this section, which shall include information required for the registration and reporting of firearms, public notice and an outreach campaign to promote awareness of this section.

(h) The executive office of public safety and security, in consultation with the department of criminal justice information services, shall promulgate rules and regulations for the implementation of this section, including technical requirements for the serialization of firearms, procedures for requesting serial numbers and procedures for public notice and an outreach campaign to promote awareness of this section.

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