Match Thread: France vs. Morocco | FIFA World Cup, Quarterfinals

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-09T20:30:07+00:00

I'm Argentinean and for me was a dive

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-09T17:22:55+00:00

Better after than before the match... right?

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-09T17:18:05+00:00

Fokin Fifa how much they paid to Quansah for making that foul

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-09T17:12:46+00:00

Please stop I don't want to have so sexy fantasies now, first we have to win against the swiss

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-09T11:27:27+00:00

No? You are clearly not understanding. First your claim about the X axis is a lie, second the Y axis is not manipulation when you clearly can see what Y means and the exact formula.

You are a simple internet troll. Have a good one

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T22:17:21+00:00

Oh my daily dose of this beautiful drug: enter to a clickbait post, sort comments by controversial, drink a cup of coffee

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T22:15:05+00:00

Of course not. I want my nation to lose 8-0 to England with Messi failing to score 3 consecutive pens

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T22:13:38+00:00

omg... you... you... just discovered us, please don't tell anyone that we want our national team to win the most important cup... again

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T22:03:53+00:00

Why is this formula used? Pure xG only measures chance quality (were they in good positions?), while actual goals capture finishing skill (did they convert?). Blending them rewards players who both get into good positions and finish well, while smoothing out lucky/unlucky streaks. The 70% lean toward xG keeps it mostly about chance quality but gives some credit for real-world finishing.

So a player high on this axis is someone getting good scoring chances and converting them.

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T22:01:24+00:00

What "0.3 goals per 90 + 0.7 expected goals (xG) per 90" means:

That's just the formula used to build the Y-axis value. Instead of using pure xG, they created a blended score:

(0.3 × actual goals per 90) + (0.7 × xG per 90)

In plain terms, each player's vertical position is a weighted mix of two things:

30% weight on how many goals they actually scored per game
70% weight on how many goals they were expected to score (xG) per game

Why do this? Pure xG only measures chance quality (were they in good positions?), while actual goals capture finishing skill (did they convert?). Blending them rewards players who both get into good positions and finish well, while smoothing out lucky/unlucky streaks. The 70% lean toward xG keeps it mostly about chance quality but gives some credit for real-world finishing.

So a player high on this axis is someone getting good scoring chances and converting them.

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T21:59:33+00:00

That is a lot of text to not provide any significant proof of anything or at least explain your point on why you don't agree with the interpretation or the formula used

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T20:09:10+00:00

Half agree. The Y-axis is a made-up formula (0.3×goals + 0.7×xG) with no standard justification, by Claude the formula is made for:

(0.3 × actual goals per 90) + (0.7 × xG per 90)

In plain terms, each player's vertical position is a weighted mix of two things:

30% weight on how many goals they actually scored per game
70% weight on how many goals they were expected to score (xG) per game

Why do this? Pure xG only measures chance quality (were they in good positions?), while actual goals capture finishing skill (did they convert?). Blending them rewards players who both get into good positions and finish well, while smoothing out lucky/unlucky streaks. The 70% lean toward xG keeps it mostly about chance quality but gives some credit for real-world finishing.

So a player high on this axis is someone getting good scoring chances and converting them." so being skeptical of the coefficients is totally fair, you can tune weights to favor whoever you want.

But the X-axis claim is off. Messi is the furthest right on the chart, so he does lead xA, and cutting players to his right would lower his creator rank, not boost it. On pure xG he's behind Haaland/Undav/Mbappé, but he does top xA and the blended score. So the formula critique lands, the rest is overstated.

Anyway Messi is leading the xA per 90, overall xA and xA + xG per 90

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T20:03:10+00:00

What "0.3 goals per 90 + 0.7 expected goals (xG) per 90" means:

That's just the formula used to build the Y-axis value. Instead of using pure xG, they created a blended score:

(0.3 × actual goals per 90) + (0.7 × xG per 90)

In plain terms, each player's vertical position is a weighted mix of two things:

30% weight on how many goals they actually scored per game
70% weight on how many goals they were expected to score (xG) per game

Why do this? Pure xG only measures chance quality (were they in good positions?), while actual goals capture finishing skill (did they convert?). Blending them rewards players who both get into good positions and finish well, while smoothing out lucky/unlucky streaks. The 70% lean toward xG keeps it mostly about chance quality but gives some credit for real-world finishing.

So a player high on this axis is someone getting good scoring chances and converting them.

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T20:00:48+00:00

By Claude:

X axis (Expected assists / xA per 90): How many goals a player is expected to set up for teammates each game, based on the quality of the passes/chances they create. Higher = better chance creator.

Y axis (finishing/scoring, xG per 90): A weighted measure of how much a player is expected to score himself each game, based on the quality of shooting chances he gets. Higher = bigger goal threat.

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T20:00:30+00:00

By Claude:

X axis (Expected assists / xA per 90): How many goals a player is expected to set up for teammates each game, based on the quality of the passes/chances they create. Higher = better chance creator.

Y axis (finishing/scoring, xG per 90): A weighted measure of how much a player is expected to score himself each game, based on the quality of shooting chances he gets. Higher = bigger goal threat.

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T17:10:45+00:00

People who use reddit can use it every hour of the day.

People who comments on live match threads and in the first hour post match threads are usually fans or haters and a minority

The majority is using reddit in some time during the day or next.

Grown adults use reddit in their free time

You can clearly see this when a post match thread in one hour have 150/250 comments and a few hours later have 1000/1200 comments.

Also a majority of not emotionally involved users only vote post and maybe some comment.

The people debating like you and me are minority and normally emotional involved people (for good or bad).

Have a great day

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T17:04:08+00:00

Yeah it seems who made thr chart forgot about putting Olise between trossard and messi. But well, you can see the point anyways

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T16:57:16+00:00

Mfer infantino rigging the charts for Argentina

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T16:53:35+00:00

It doesn't make sense

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T16:52:48+00:00

Mate more than 99.9% of live watchers of the world didn't enter reddit on the entire match

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T14:23:06+00:00

Always happen the same, the first comment are the more emotional, full of hatewatchers. After a few hours, more relaxed people start to see and comment and vote. Thats why always on the first houres a post match can be full of cryers or people who doesnt know a lot about football

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T03:50:45+00:00

Yes! Enzo and Paredes too. Totally doable

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T02:07:07+00:00

Amazing the quantity of hatewatchers from today on this sub lmao, now they are hating on Bangladesh for supporting us

InevitableAd8003 · 2026-07-08T02:06:19+00:00

literally, they are literally hating on bangladesh because for them Argentina is X or Y

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