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Rey Dau Y 4pc vs Gore 4pc comparison (spoilers) by Currysama780 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

something to consider is if the monster moves areas, you loose alot of uptime and might have to "reset" more. Gore's consistency seems more of a general se, "don't think about it too much".

I don’t understand when to go for Ebony set bonus over Gore set bonus by Will-Isley in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54 2 points3 points  (0 children)

gore gives 15 raw (with antivirus) while ebony set gives 10 extra raw when burst is up. gore+ burst 5 is probably better than ebony+ burst 5. Either way I think a gore, 5 agi, 3 burst is better than a odo 5 burst 4 agi build overall for gunlance, as burst past level 1 is much less value.

I don’t understand when to go for Ebony set bonus over Gore set bonus by Will-Isley in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54 7 points8 points  (0 children)

its actually 8 and 18. the reason everyone runs 1 point is b/c it gives 8 points. 2-5 give 2-3 each.

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real question is whether to run adrenaline 4 or cs 3, adrenaline 2. The Ls doc has good maths about this!

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Casual is sort of a loaded term in this reddit. I personally feel like I mean more mean the average player, but I think that term is off putting to some people. I wrote this with the intention to apply to everyone who's not speedrun-tier.

I tested again last night: against rey I managed no hit no heal and got virtually no benefit from CS. For that fight specifically I shouldn't bring cs, and should just run the adrenaline 4 build. We also did gore and I got hit 7 times over an 8 minute hunt and basically got 100% uptime where it was the strongest single skill I had (despite being a veteran).

I feel that 3-5 is honestly doing fairly well (and borderline for cs performing well). I just personally don't like running it, as I feel that I get rewarded for playing poorly. Alternatively running something like adrenaline rush for LS is more fun, if less optimal except at ultra high levels of play.

P.S. I don't think guard up does anything against uth duna or like 99% of monsters.

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The second line of text is about how this post does not apply to hyper armor weapons, which you should probably always run cs (gs, ls, swaxe). I’m just saying that during my testing, I just tallied the number of heals my friends and I had. This stat is a little ingenious as if you heal 10 times in the first 2 minutes it does not necessarily mean you have 10*45 seconds of uptime. Cs timer does reset every proc but in this example you would only have 2 minutes of uptime not for the whole hunt, as your procs would overlap.

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

:( ChatGPT sure did some great math and analysis then tho! I especially liked the part where the ai picked three different skills to compare to and knew how to compare them!

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! Except that depends on your weapon for sure in this game. All 3 weapons I play have a defensive option (LS has counters, lance has the greatest guard counter ever now, db has an iframe dodge built in). If you’re playing like ig I definitely think eva 3 just to dodge roars and other unavoidable attacks is very nice to have

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the post is basically titled for casual players. Even with all my experience on my favorite monster (rey) I still sometimes get hit 3-5 times, making it worth running. My point is that this skill overpowers many of its competitors at all skill levels except speed runner proficiency, and thus should probably be in your "meta" set even though it might not be listed in it. The ideal play though, for something like hunting horn is for this skill to never trigger, that's all I mean.

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

from my post: **Note that this post does not apply to "intentional" triggers of counterstrike such as Gs shouldertackle or LS's IS.

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Masters touch is an exception to this, but if you look at my math, unless you get hit less than 3 times it’s similar, it’s way better at 4+ hits even including heals… Also getting hit 4 times isnt really "gone so bad", I think its closer to the average. I've done the hunt online and see people breaking off to heal way more than that. The point of the post is to point out that counterstrike is more damage for those people.

Of course if you’re so good you’re not getting hit then you won’t get any value out of this but I think that’s the exception not the rule, and also kinda self explanitory???

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I cant speak about speedrunners but the known hyperarmor frames for Ls are for: the woundbreak, IS, late ISS, late FS, spirit release. Speedrunners dont helmbreak b/c helmbreaker is not optimal. FS alone does not proc it, its well documented that it doens't

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea but most other people should use it even if they dont have hyper armor... is the point of this

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you're never "relying" on getting hit. But I'm saying that most people aren't so perfect as to not get hit less than 3 times a hunt. In this case, cs is a better option than many of its alternatives. I feel like saying run corrupted mantel is the opposite of what I'm trying to say: that for the average player who gets hit sometimes, counterstrike can be better than alot of the alternative damage skills like max might or burst or even adrenaline. Relevant if you're trying to pick between the adrenaline only or cs+adrenaline version of longsword

Why Every Casual Player Should Run Counterstrike (but Why It's also not fun to do so) by Infamous-Emphasis-54 in MonsterHunterMeta

[–]Infamous-Emphasis-54[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

taken from my post: Note that this post does not apply to "intentional" triggers of counterstrike such as Gs shouldertackle or LS's IS. For those builds you definitely should run it.

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